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billy, i can recognize this a a concept that is beyond your understanding. & you are correct you & most others should not attempt it. i have no quarrel with you in this. but you happen to mention the body count on the Doria. i am assuming that since you made that statement you have some knowledge about them. perhaps you could share it with us. How many of the last 4 or five of these were cave trained & how many were just plain old wreck divers?? dive on & on hank In a message dated 97-01-16 10:00:44 EST, you write: << Subj: Re: My goodness! Date: 97-01-16 10:00:44 EST From: billy@ha*.co*.au* To: mwelzel@st*.co* (Mark Welzel) CC: techdiver@te*.ne* At 06:39 PM 15/01/1997, Mark Welzel wrote: >You don't actually memorize waypoints, you >LEARN an area before progressing further >into the wreck. The point here being that you >aren't making a big push to penetrate as much >of the wreck as you can in one dive, but you >work a wreck slowly over many dives. Mark, I kept asking about this because I really thought you had a serious technique or rational method by which to carry out safe penetration diving without running a line. But what you're saying here is that your method consists of only going in as far as you think you can get back out from. That's about as effective as promising not to go in too far. Here I was, waiting for a revelation of some kind. And all you've come up with is a long winded version of the EXACT method by which most people who get themselves lost manage to do it. A year ago Attikan was promoting the same stuff. I think you should keep this dangerous bullshit to yourself. Just keep on quietly racking up the body count on the Doria. rgrds billyw +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Please send messages for the WreckDiver list to: wreckdiver@wreckdiver.com Send subscription and help requests to: wreckdiver-request@wreckdiver.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
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