george i don't know about all of the guys i've seen being strokes. some of them seemed quite proficient in there diving. I know one of them is on your team. i happen to like him a lot & i think he is an excellent diver. but you still don't get the point. you & your team do what you do quite well. i have always said that. but the type of extreme diving that you & i do is not the norm. we represent maybe 10% of the total diving population (& i'm being generous with the estimate-it used to be 1%). i was only referring to your remark as being "slightly" over stated. while i believe that technical diving has changed diving gear & profiles considerably. i would say that it all does not go back to you & your system of diving. i think its an overall approach of the entire industry. It didn't start with you or me for that matter & when we are gone it wont end. this is a fluid sport that will change because of many things, don't be so presumptuous to think everyone in the sport is hanging on your thoughts. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Please send messages for the WreckDiver list to: wreckdiver@wreckdiver.com Send subscription and help requests to: wreckdiver-request@wreckdiver.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
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