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--=====================_19045129==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Nice post, cheesedick. Wake up and get real. I said I sold tons of stroke shit - never said I sold defective shit. If a person wanted a Tusa Liberator BC I sold them one. If a person wanted three computers to dive with - I sold them. I a person wanted a "hyperdry" snorkel - I sold them. I knew the gear I was selling was unacceptable to ME - if they wanted the stuff - I sold it. What did you do with your stroke shit when you were ready to get rid of it - burn it? You find it hard to contain your disgust for my actions????? because I sold shit at a dive store??????? Fuck you, bonehead! How many dive stores in Atlanta that mainly cater to 2 weekender a year divers going to the Caymans do you know of that don't carry BC's and snorkels and gadget shit. ".....grossly irresponsible if not downright criminal"?????????? Are you telling me that everyone that sells non-DIR shit should be in fucking jail?!?!?!?!?! What about Halcyon's weight system??? How many dive shops can you name that carry ONLY what can be used from a DIR perspective?????? I am truly flattereed that you think I carry enough fucking influence in the dive industry to bring it to ruin by my actions!! You are truly a dumb fuck. Maybe you need to go back and read the damn thread again because you APPARENTLY didn't quite get it the first time through. Then again, you never have made much sense in your posts anyway. And yes, numbnuts, I person can adopt the DIR philosophy and STILL SELL SOMEBODY A FUCKING TUSA BC. Jesus tapdancin' Christ!!!! Jim Holcomb At 08:18 PM 11/8/2001 -0500, ScottBonis@ao*.co* wrote: >Hi Jim, > >I am sending this message to three separate lists as your message, to which I >am replying, was sent to these three same lists. > >Jim, I guess that your message explains a major portion of the difference >between you and me. You see I could never supply gear to anyone that I >thought was not the proper gear for that person to be using in any given >situation. > >Your boast of << I sold tons of bullshit stroke gear ... <snip> ... folks >have got to sell stuff to pay the bills. You going to make my house payment >while I sit on my ass and be a purist? >> , and the rest of your message >indicating to me that you knew that what you were selling was not acceptable >gear at the time you sold it, is so repulsive that I find it hard to contain >my disgust for your actions. It is people like you, using the excuse that "I >need to make a living," that are a detriment to the scuba diving industry and >IMHO, just possibly the cause of various scuba accidents. "Farm animal >stupid" is too kind for you because you knew that what you were doing was >wrong at the time you were doing it. Make a living some other way, but not >by knowingly placing divers in potentially unacceptably dangerous >predicaments. > >To me, there is no reason to ever supply a diver with unacceptable equipment >for him or her to use in any given situation. Either supply acceptable gear >or inform the diver that the proposed diving cannot be accomplished safely >with the other gear that you have presently for sale. And then offer to help >get (special order, alternate supplier, more expensive initially but second >hand, etc.) alternative acceptable gear to satisfy the diver's needs. This >is known as professionalism and any other course of action is, IMHO grossly >irresponsible if not downright criminal. > >I am certainly glad that your message is in the past tense << ... until a >couple weeks ago, I ran a dive shop in Atlanta. >>, as I'd rather not need to >think about your still supplying unacceptable equipment to divers. > >And you profess to support the DIR philosophy??? Is that "use acceptable >equipment unless that doesn't sell and then Jim Holcomb can make a little >more money by having someone buy unacceptable equipment"? Just whom do you >think you're kidding? > >But then, this is just one instructor's opinion. > >Take care and dive safe, Scott > >Some weeks it's just not worth the effort to gnaw through the restraints and >scramble up out of the pit. > > > >In a message dated 11/7/01 7:59:18 PM, jimholcomb@x-*.co* writes: > ><< Well, in a fucked up kind of way, I agree. But wouldn't it be a whole lot >more hypocritical to sell a stroke "stroke" gear. Up until a couple weeks >ago, I ran a dive shop in Atlanta. I sold tons of bullshit stroke gear to >folks. If you got to sell something to somebody to pay the bills it would >probably be better to sell them gear oriented toward the DIR philosophy as >opposed to some of that shit I sold. My point being, folks have got to >sell stuff to pay the bills. You going to make my house payment while I sit >on my ass and be a purist? Better to sell DIR stuff to strokes than stroke >shit to strokes. Make any sense????? > >Jim Holcomb >> Jim Holcomb <http://www.x-divers.com/>x-divers.<http://www.x-divers.com/>com --=====================_19045129==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html> Nice post, cheesedick.<br> Wake up and get real. I said I sold tons of stroke shit - never said I sold defective shit. If a person wanted a Tusa Liberator BC I sold them one. If a person wanted three computers to dive with - I sold them. I a person wanted a "hyperdry" snorkel - I sold them. I knew the gear I was selling was unacceptable to ME - if they wanted the stuff - I sold it. What did you do with your stroke shit when you were ready to get rid of it - burn it? You find it hard to contain your disgust for my actions????? because I sold shit at a dive store??????? Fuck you, bonehead! How many dive stores in Atlanta that mainly cater to 2 weekender a year divers going to the Caymans do you know of that don't carry BC's and snorkels and gadget shit. ".....grossly irresponsible if not downright criminal"?????????? Are you telling me that everyone that sells non-DIR shit should be in fucking jail?!?!?!?!?! What about Halcyon's weight system??? How many dive shops can you name that carry ONLY what can be used from a DIR perspective?????? I am truly flattereed that you think I carry enough fucking influence in the dive industry to bring it to ruin by my actions!! You are truly a dumb fuck. Maybe you need to go back and read the damn thread again because you APPARENTLY didn't quite get it the first time through. Then again, you never have made much sense in your posts anyway. And yes, numbnuts, I person can adopt the DIR philosophy and STILL SELL SOMEBODY A FUCKING TUSA BC.<br><br> Jesus tapdancin' Christ!!!!<br><br> Jim Holcomb<br><br> At 08:18 PM 11/8/2001 -0500, ScottBonis@ao*.co* wrote:<br> <blockquote type=3Dcite class=3Dcite cite>Hi Jim,<br><br> I am sending this message to three separate lists as your message, to which I <br> am replying, was sent to these three same lists.<br><br> Jim, I guess that your message explains a major portion of the difference <br> between you and me. You see I could never supply gear to anyone that I <br> thought was not the proper gear for that person to be using in any given <br> situation.<br><br> Your boast of << I sold tons of bullshit stroke gear ... <snip> ... folks <br> have got to sell stuff to pay the bills. You going to make my house payment <br> while I sit on my ass and be a purist? >> , and the rest of your message <br> indicating to me that you knew that what you were selling was not acceptable <br> gear at the time you sold it, is so repulsive that I find it hard to contain <br> my disgust for your actions. It is people like you, using the excuse that "I <br> need to make a living," that are a detriment to the scuba diving industry and <br> IMHO, just possibly the cause of various scuba accidents. "Farm animal <br> stupid" is too kind for you because you knew that what you were doing was <br> wrong at the time you were doing it. Make a living some other way, but not <br> by knowingly placing divers in potentially unacceptably dangerous <br> predicaments.<br><br> To me, there is no reason to ever supply a diver with unacceptable equipment <br> for him or her to use in any given situation. Either supply acceptable gear <br> or inform the diver that the proposed diving cannot be accomplished safely <br> with the other gear that you have presently for sale. And then offer to help <br> get (special order, alternate supplier, more expensive initially but second <br> hand, etc.) alternative acceptable gear to satisfy the diver's needs. This <br> is known as professionalism and any other course of action is, IMHO grossly <br> irresponsible if not downright criminal.<br><br> I am certainly glad that your message is in the past tense << ... until a <br> couple weeks ago, I ran a dive shop in Atlanta. >>, as I'd rather not need to <br> think about your still supplying unacceptable equipment to divers.<br><br> And you profess to support the DIR philosophy??? Is that "use acceptable <br> equipment unless that doesn't sell and then Jim Holcomb can make a little <br> more money by having someone buy unacceptable equipment"? Just whom do you <br> think you're kidding?<br><br> But then, this is just one instructor's opinion.<br><br> Take care and dive safe, Scott<br><br> Some weeks it's just not worth the effort to gnaw through the restraints and <br> scramble up out of the pit.<br><br> <br><br> In a message dated 11/7/01 7:59:18 PM, jimholcomb@x-*.co* writes:<br><br> << Well, in a fucked up kind of way, I agree. But wouldn't it be a whole lot <br> more hypocritical to sell a stroke "stroke" gear. Up until a couple weeks <br> ago, I ran a dive shop in Atlanta. I sold tons of bullshit stroke gear to <br> folks. If you got to sell something to somebody to pay the bills it would <br> probably be better to sell them gear oriented toward the DIR philosophy as <br> opposed to some of that shit I sold. My point being, folks have got to <br> sell stuff to pay the bills. You going to make my house payment while I sit <br> on my ass and be a purist? Better to sell DIR stuff to strokes than stroke <br> shit to strokes. Make any sense?????<br><br> Jim Holcomb >></blockquote> <x-sigsep><p></x-sigsep> <br> <font face=3D"Berlin Sans FB"><b><i>Jim Holcomb<br> <a href=3D"http://www.x-divers.com/">x-divers.</a><a href=3D"http://www.x-di= vers.com/">com</a></font></b></i></html> --=====================_19045129==_.ALT-- -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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