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Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 20:41:26 -0500
To: "Gordon Cancio" <gordoncancio@ho*.co*>, allysonclagett@ea*.ne*,
     Michael.Waldbrenner@wa*.de*, bryon@be*.co*, pina3@be*.ne*,
     trey@ne*.co*, evlink2001@ho*.co*, quest@gu*.co*, cavers@ca*.co*,
     techdiver@aquanaut.com
From: Jim Holcomb <jimholcomb@x-*.co*>
Subject: Re: [cavers] RE: GI and SS to Merge
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Well, in a fucked up kind of way, I agree. But wouldn't it be a whole lot 
more hypocritical to sell a stroke "stroke" gear.  Up until a couple weeks 
ago, I ran a dive shop in Atlanta.  I sold tons of bullshit stroke gear to 
folks.  If you got to sell something to somebody to pay the bills it would 
probably be better to sell them gear oriented toward the DIR philosophy as 
opposed to some of that shit I sold.  My point being, folks have got to 
sell stuff to pay the bills. You going to make my house payment while I sit 
on my ass and be a purist? Better to sell DIR stuff to strokes than stroke 
shit to strokes. Make any sense?????

Jim Holcomb

At 04:23 AM 11/6/2001 +0000, Gordon Cancio wrote:
>I live in the Philippines. Halcyon is sold here, but there is no GUE or 
>DIR training available. I think there are less than two dozen (24) 
>locations where one can get DIR training worldwide. Very often I see fully 
>Halcyon outfitted divers scuba diving with very poor diving habits and 
>skills. For all intent and purposes these persons can be labelled as 
>strokes by persons like Trey.
>
>I think it is HYPOCRITICAL of the DIR bigshots to declare that a DIR 
>person must not dive (rule #1) or listen (Rule #2) to strokes; but it is 
>perfectly DIR to sell a stroke gear.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Gordon Cancio
>
>>From: "Allyson" <allysonclagett@ea*.ne*>
>>To: "'Michael Waldbrenner'" <Michael.Waldbrenner@wa*.de*>, "'Bryon 
>>Bertrim'" <bryon@be*.co*>, "'pina'" <pina3@be*.ne*>, "'Trey'" 
>><trey@ne*.co*>, "'E.N. Von'" <evlink2001@ho*.co*>, 
>><quest@gu*.co*>, "'Cavers@Ca*.Co*'" <cavers@ca*.co*>, 
>>"'Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com'" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>>Subject: RE: GI and SS to Merge
>>Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 20:27:02 -0500
>>
>>There are divers who die while trusting their lives to dangerous equipment,
>>I can think of a few highly publicized deaths with this regard... perhaps
>>the rule you made should be revised?  :)
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Michael Waldbrenner [mailto:Michael.Waldbrenner@wa*.de*]
>>Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 9:53 AM
>>To: 'Bryon Bertrim'; pina; Trey; E.N. Von; quest@gu*.co*;
>>Cavers@Ca*.Co*; Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com
>>Subject: AW: GI and SS to Merge
>>
>>
>>Bryon:
>>Just follow a simple rule:
>>Use only equipment from people who trust their own lifes to their own
>>equipment.
>>
>>Michael
>>
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Well, in a fucked up kind of way, I agree. But wouldn't it be a whole lot
more hypocritical to sell a stroke "stroke" gear.  Up
until a couple weeks ago, I ran a dive shop in Atlanta.  I sold tons
of bullshit stroke gear to folks.  If you got to sell something to
somebody to pay the bills it would probably be better to sell them gear
oriented toward the DIR philosophy as opposed to some of that shit I
sold.  My point being, folks have got to sell stuff to pay the
bills. You going to make my house payment while I sit on my ass and be a
purist?  Better to sell DIR stuff to strokes than stroke shit to strokes.
Make any sense?????<br><br>
Jim Holcomb <br><br>
At 04:23 AM 11/6/2001 +0000, Gordon Cancio wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>I live in the Philippines. Halcyon
is sold here, but there is no GUE or DIR training available. I think
there are less than two dozen (24) locations where one can get DIR
training worldwide. Very often I see fully Halcyon outfitted divers scuba
diving with very poor diving habits and skills. For all intent and
purposes these persons can be labelled as strokes by persons like
Trey.<br><br>
I think it is HYPOCRITICAL of the DIR bigshots to declare that a DIR
person must not dive (rule #1) or listen (Rule #2) to strokes; but it is
perfectly DIR to sell a stroke gear.<br><br>
Sincerely,<br><br>
Gordon Cancio<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>From: "Allyson"
<allysonclagett@ea*.ne*><br>
To: "'Michael Waldbrenner'"
<Michael.Waldbrenner@wa*.de*>, "'Bryon Bertrim'"
<bryon@be*.co*>, "'pina'"
<pina3@be*.ne*>, "'Trey'" <trey@ne*.co*>,
"'E.N. Von'" <evlink2001@ho*.co*>,
<quest@gu*.co*>, "'Cavers@Ca*.Co*'"
<cavers@ca*.co*>, "'Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com'"
<techdiver@aquanaut.com><br>
Subject: RE: GI and SS to Merge<br>
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 20:27:02 -0500<br><br>
There are divers who die while trusting their lives to dangerous
equipment,<br>
I can think of a few highly publicized deaths with this regard...
perhaps<br>
the rule you made should be revised?  :)<br><br>
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From: Michael Waldbrenner
[<a href="mailto:Michael.Waldbrenner@wa*.de*"
eudora="autourl">mailto:Michael.Waldbrenner@wa*.de*</a>]<br>
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 9:53 AM<br>
To: 'Bryon Bertrim'; pina; Trey; E.N. Von; quest@gu*.co*;<br>
Cavers@Ca*.Co*; Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com<br>
Subject: AW: GI and SS to Merge<br><br>
<br>
Bryon:<br>
Just follow a simple rule:<br>
Use only equipment from people who trust their own lifes to their
own<br>
equipment.<br><br>
Michael<br><br>
<scooter stuff deleted><br><br>
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