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From: "Steve Schultz" <se2schul@st*.ma*.uw*.ca*>
To: "terry michael" <OEA51@go*.co*>
Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: QUARRY DEATH TOLL was: [Dumb vs. Smart Re: Wet vs Dry in SoCal]]
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 17:03:15 -0400
They are provided with a depth gauge.  They just need a $30 timex.

ss

----- Original Message -----
From: terry michael <OEA51@go*.co*>
To: gott <wgrogan@dc*.ne*>; Thomas Rasbeck <trasbeck@dr*.co*>
Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 10:37 PM
Subject: QUARRY DEATH TOLL was: [Dumb vs. Smart Re: Wet vs Dry in SoCal]]


> Wendell, Your right in my opinion.
> I think it's safe to say any wetsuit over 5 mil is the wrong suit for the
job. But the students also are not provided with a timing device so have to
rely on their instructor. Is it also possible to justifie that?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "gott"<wgrogan@dc*.ne*>
> To: "Thomas Rasbeck"<trasbeck@dr*.co*>
> Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
> Date: Sat Jun 16 18:48:22 PDT 2001
> Subject: Re: [Re: Re: [Dumb vs. Smart  Re: Wet vs Dry in SoCal]]
>
> >Every time I see the discussion of wet vs. dry in the NE US/Canada, I
remember
> >when we were buying our gear from Evie Dudas for the first time.  She
told us
> >that we should buy dry suits if we were serious about diving, that it
would save
> >us money in the long run.  We scoffed, thinking that she was just trying
to make
> >a buck since she makes custom dry suits.  Wrongo!!  We now own 3 wet
suits and 3
> >dry suits, the wet suits make interesting wall hangings in our basement.
The
> >dry suits are used most weekends.
> >I dove a 7 mm wet suits in conditions down to 35 F for up to an hour at a
time.
> >I survived, but was often unable to stand up with a single steel 95.  In
other
> >words, you can do it, feel "OK", but be severely impaired from
hypothermia.  If
> >you are going to be diving in water below 60 F for any length of time, do
> >yourself and your potential widow a favor, either buy a dry suit, or
spend the
> >money on more life insurance.
> >Wendell G
> >
> >Thomas Rasbeck wrote:
> >
> >> Amen to that..After 25 years of Great Lakes diving, I see more dry
suits
> >> each year...My advice to newer divers as to the wet/dry question is to
> >> remember the possibly long, cold boat ride after the dive. This is
where
> >> being dry and warm really becomes a plus side for dry. In a small open
boat
> >> it can be nearly impossible to change into dry warm clothes. I have
seen
> >> people get a start on hypothermia by only worrying about water temp,
instead
> >> of considering the entire trip.
> >>
> >> Tom R.
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Michael A. Graham <magraham@ne*.co*>
> >> To: Bob Sherwood <sherwood@st*.rr*.co*>; terry michael
<OEA51@go*.co*>;
Bob
> >> Hines <bhines.vwmc@us*.ne*>
> >> Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> >> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 11:42 AM
> >> Subject: Re: Re: [Re: Re: [Dumb vs. Smart Re: Wet vs Dry in SoCal]]
> >>
> >> > Bob Hines' observation that "...Very few people in the Great Lakes
area
> >> wear
> >> > Drysuits, unless they are doing Ice diving or extended deeper diving
in
> >> the
> >> > cold..." would suggest to me that Bob does very little diving in the
Great
> >> > Lakes.  I've been actively diving the Great Lakes for 12 years and it
> >> seems
> >> > to me, from what I've observed, the majority of divers are diving
dry,
> >> > "technical" and "sport" divers alike.  It seems to me that being cold
has
> >> > nothing to do with being a wimp...but being "macho" about diving wet
in
> >> cold
> >> > water is stupidity.
> >> >
> >> > Bob, provide a sound argument for diving a wetsuit in the cold waters
of
> >> the
> >> > Great Lakes beyond "You get used to the cold after about 20 years of
it.".
> >> >
> >> > MAG
> >> >
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