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Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 19:37:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: terry michael <OEA51@go*.co*>
Subject: QUARRY DEATH TOLL was: [Dumb vs. Smart Re: Wet vs Dry in SoCal]]
To: gott <wgrogan@dc*.ne*>, Thomas Rasbeck <trasbeck@dr*.co*>
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Wendell, Your right in my opinion.
I think it's safe to say any wetsuit over 5 mil is the wrong suit for the job.
But the students also are not provided with a timing device so have to rely on
their instructor. Is it also possible to justifie that?

-----Original Message-----
From: "gott"<wgrogan@dc*.ne*>
To: "Thomas Rasbeck"<trasbeck@dr*.co*>
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Date: Sat Jun 16 18:48:22 PDT 2001
Subject: Re: [Re: Re: [Dumb vs. Smart  Re: Wet vs Dry in SoCal]]

>Every time I see the discussion of wet vs. dry in the NE US/Canada, I remember
>when we were buying our gear from Evie Dudas for the first time.  She told us
>that we should buy dry suits if we were serious about diving, that it would
save
>us money in the long run.  We scoffed, thinking that she was just trying to
make
>a buck since she makes custom dry suits.  Wrongo!!  We now own 3 wet suits and
3
>dry suits, the wet suits make interesting wall hangings in our basement.  The
>dry suits are used most weekends.
>I dove a 7 mm wet suits in conditions down to 35 F for up to an hour at a time.
>I survived, but was often unable to stand up with a single steel 95.  In other
>words, you can do it, feel "OK", but be severely impaired from hypothermia.  If
>you are going to be diving in water below 60 F for any length of time, do
>yourself and your potential widow a favor, either buy a dry suit, or spend the
>money on more life insurance.
>Wendell G
>
>Thomas Rasbeck wrote:
>
>> Amen to that..After 25 years of Great Lakes diving, I see more dry suits
>> each year...My advice to newer divers as to the wet/dry question is to
>> remember the possibly long, cold boat ride after the dive. This is where
>> being dry and warm really becomes a plus side for dry. In a small open boat
>> it can be nearly impossible to change into dry warm clothes. I have seen
>> people get a start on hypothermia by only worrying about water temp, instead
>> of considering the entire trip.
>>
>> Tom R.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Michael A. Graham <magraham@ne*.co*>
>> To: Bob Sherwood <sherwood@st*.rr*.co*>; terry michael
<OEA51@go*.co*>; Bob
>> Hines <bhines.vwmc@us*.ne*>
>> Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 11:42 AM
>> Subject: Re: Re: [Re: Re: [Dumb vs. Smart Re: Wet vs Dry in SoCal]]
>>
>> > Bob Hines' observation that "...Very few people in the Great Lakes area
>> wear
>> > Drysuits, unless they are doing Ice diving or extended deeper diving in
>> the
>> > cold..." would suggest to me that Bob does very little diving in the Great
>> > Lakes.  I've been actively diving the Great Lakes for 12 years and it
>> seems
>> > to me, from what I've observed, the majority of divers are diving dry,
>> > "technical" and "sport" divers alike.  It seems to me that being cold has
>> > nothing to do with being a wimp...but being "macho" about diving wet in
>> cold
>> > water is stupidity.
>> >
>> > Bob, provide a sound argument for diving a wetsuit in the cold waters of
>> the
>> > Great Lakes beyond "You get used to the cold after about 20 years of it.".
>> >
>> > MAG
>> >
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