That's exactly what I used.
WG


>They are provided with a depth gauge.  They just need a $30 timex.
>
>ss
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: terry michael <OEA51@go*.co*>
>To: gott <wgrogan@dc*.ne*>; Thomas Rasbeck <trasbeck@dr*.co*>
>Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 10:37 PM
>Subject: QUARRY DEATH TOLL was: [Dumb vs. Smart Re: Wet vs Dry in SoCal]]
>
>
>> Wendell, Your right in my opinion.
>> I think it's safe to say any wetsuit over 5 mil is the wrong suit for the

>job. But the students also are not provided with a timing device so have to

>rely on their instructor. Is it also possible to justifie that?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "gott"<wgrogan@dc*.ne*>
>> To: "Thomas Rasbeck"<trasbeck@dr*.co*>
>> Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
>> Date: Sat Jun 16 18:48:22 PDT 2001
>> Subject: Re: [Re: Re: [Dumb vs. Smart  Re: Wet vs Dry in SoCal]]
>>
>> >Every time I see the discussion of wet vs. dry in the NE US/Canada, I
>remember
>> >when we were buying our gear from Evie Dudas for the first time.  She
>told us
>> >that we should buy dry suits if we were serious about diving, that it
>would save
>> >us money in the long run.  We scoffed, thinking that she was just trying

>to make
>> >a buck since she makes custom dry suits.  Wrongo!!  We now own 3 wet
>suits and 3
>> >dry suits, the wet suits make interesting wall hangings in our basement.

>The
>> >dry suits are used most weekends.
>> >I dove a 7 mm wet suits in conditions down to 35 F for up to an hour at
a
>time.
>> >I survived, but was often unable to stand up with a single steel 95.  In

>other
>> >words, you can do it, feel "OK", but be severely impaired from
>hypothermia.  If
>> >you are going to be diving in water below 60 F for any length of time, do

>> >yourself and your potential widow a favor, either buy a dry suit, or
>spend the
>> >money on more life insurance.
>> >Wendell G
>> >
>> >Thomas Rasbeck wrote:
>> >
>> >> Amen to that..After 25 years of Great Lakes diving, I see more dry
>suits
>> >> each year...My advice to newer divers as to the wet/dry question is to

>> >> remember the possibly long, cold boat ride after the dive. This is
>where
>> >> being dry and warm really becomes a plus side for dry. In a small open

>boat
>> >> it can be nearly impossible to change into dry warm clothes. I have
>seen
>> >> people get a start on hypothermia by only worrying about water temp,
>instead
>> >> of considering the entire trip.
>> >>
>> >> Tom R.
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: Michael A. Graham <magraham@ne*.co*>
>> >> To: Bob Sherwood <sherwood@st*.rr*.co*>; terry michael
<OEA51@go*.co*>;

>Bob
>> >> Hines <bhines.vwmc@us*.ne*>
>> >> Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>> >> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 11:42 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: Re: [Re: Re: [Dumb vs. Smart Re: Wet vs Dry in SoCal]]
>> >>
>> >> > Bob Hines' observation that "...Very few people in the Great Lakes
>area
>> >> wear
>> >> > Drysuits, unless they are doing Ice diving or extended deeper diving

>in
>> >> the
>> >> > cold..." would suggest to me that Bob does very little diving in the

>Great
>> >> > Lakes.  I've been actively diving the Great Lakes for 12 years and it

>> >> seems
>> >> > to me, from what I've observed, the majority of divers are diving
>dry,
>> >> > "technical" and "sport" divers alike.  It seems to me that being cold

>has
>> >> > nothing to do with being a wimp...but being "macho" about diving wet

>in
>> >> cold
>> >> > water is stupidity.
>> >> >
>> >> > Bob, provide a sound argument for diving a wetsuit in the cold waters

>of
>> >> the
>> >> > Great Lakes beyond "You get used to the cold after about 20 years of

>it.".
>> >> >
>> >> > MAG
>> >> >
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