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They get an SMB when they do a dive that requires deco. ss ----- Original Message ----- From: terry michael <OEA51@go*.co*> To: Steve Schultz <se2schul@st*.ma*.uw*.ca*> Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 9:12 PM Subject: QUARRY DEATH TOLL was: [Dumb vs. Smart Re: Wet vs Dry in SoCal]] > Sounds simple so why are they not wearing it? > What about SMB? When do they get the SMB? > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Steve Schultz"<se2schul@st*.ma*.uw*.ca*> > To: "terry michael"<OEA51@go*.co*> > Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com > Date: Mon Jun 18 14:03:15 PDT 2001 > Subject: Re: QUARRY DEATH TOLL was: [Dumb vs. Smart Re: Wet vs Dry in SoCal]] > > >They are provided with a depth gauge. They just need a $30 timex. > > > >ss > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: terry michael <OEA51@go*.co*> > >To: gott <wgrogan@dc*.ne*>; Thomas Rasbeck <trasbeck@dr*.co*> > >Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com> > >Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 10:37 PM > >Subject: QUARRY DEATH TOLL was: [Dumb vs. Smart Re: Wet vs Dry in SoCal]] > > > > > >> Wendell, Your right in my opinion. > >> I think it's safe to say any wetsuit over 5 mil is the wrong suit for the > >job. But the students also are not provided with a timing device so have to > >rely on their instructor. Is it also possible to justifie that? > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: "gott"<wgrogan@dc*.ne*> > >> To: "Thomas Rasbeck"<trasbeck@dr*.co*> > >> Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com > >> Date: Sat Jun 16 18:48:22 PDT 2001 > >> Subject: Re: [Re: Re: [Dumb vs. Smart Re: Wet vs Dry in SoCal]] > >> > >> >Every time I see the discussion of wet vs. dry in the NE US/Canada, I > >remember > >> >when we were buying our gear from Evie Dudas for the first time. She > >told us > >> >that we should buy dry suits if we were serious about diving, that it > >would save > >> >us money in the long run. We scoffed, thinking that she was just trying > >to make > >> >a buck since she makes custom dry suits. Wrongo!! We now own 3 wet > >suits and 3 > >> >dry suits, the wet suits make interesting wall hangings in our basement. > >The > >> >dry suits are used most weekends. > >> >I dove a 7 mm wet suits in conditions down to 35 F for up to an hour at a > >time. > >> >I survived, but was often unable to stand up with a single steel 95. In > >other > >> >words, you can do it, feel "OK", but be severely impaired from > >hypothermia. If > >> >you are going to be diving in water below 60 F for any length of time, do > >> >yourself and your potential widow a favor, either buy a dry suit, or > >spend the > >> >money on more life insurance. > >> >Wendell G > >> > > >> >Thomas Rasbeck wrote: > >> > > >> >> Amen to that..After 25 years of Great Lakes diving, I see more dry > >suits > >> >> each year...My advice to newer divers as to the wet/dry question is to > >> >> remember the possibly long, cold boat ride after the dive. This is > >where > >> >> being dry and warm really becomes a plus side for dry. In a small open > >boat > >> >> it can be nearly impossible to change into dry warm clothes. I have > >seen > >> >> people get a start on hypothermia by only worrying about water temp, > >instead > >> >> of considering the entire trip. > >> >> > >> >> Tom R. > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> From: Michael A. Graham <magraham@ne*.co*> > >> >> To: Bob Sherwood <sherwood@st*.rr*.co*>; terry michael <OEA51@go*.co*>; > >Bob > >> >> Hines <bhines.vwmc@us*.ne*> > >> >> Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com> > >> >> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 11:42 AM > >> >> Subject: Re: Re: [Re: Re: [Dumb vs. Smart Re: Wet vs Dry in SoCal]] > >> >> > >> >> > Bob Hines' observation that "...Very few people in the Great Lakes > >area > >> >> wear > >> >> > Drysuits, unless they are doing Ice diving or extended deeper diving > >in > >> >> the > >> >> > cold..." would suggest to me that Bob does very little diving in the > >Great > >> >> > Lakes. I've been actively diving the Great Lakes for 12 years and it > >> >> seems > >> >> > to me, from what I've observed, the majority of divers are diving > >dry, > >> >> > "technical" and "sport" divers alike. It seems to me that being cold > >has > >> >> > nothing to do with being a wimp...but being "macho" about diving wet > >in > >> >> cold > >> >> > water is stupidity. > >> >> > > >> >> > Bob, provide a sound argument for diving a wetsuit in the cold waters > >of > >> >> the > >> >> > Great Lakes beyond "You get used to the cold after about 20 years of > >it.". > >> >> > > >> >> > MAG > >> >> > > >> >> > -- > >> >> > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to > >`techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > >> >> > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to > >`techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > >> >> Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to > >`techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > >> > > >> >-- > >> >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > >> >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > >> > >> > >> ___________________________________________________ > >> GO.com Mail > >> Get Your Free, Private E-mail at http://mail.go.com > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > >> Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > > > ___________________________________________________ > GO.com Mail > Get Your Free, Private E-mail at http://mail.go.com > -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. 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