This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C00631.5AECB3C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jt, not the feet thing again - I thought you were going to pull some = real bullshit. I'd like to know what feet has to do with wreck diving , = and do not tell me it is because the dumb fucks up there don't mark = their bottles so can not understand yours. The more crap you put on the bottle , the bigger than chance of a = misread . There is only one piece fo information that is necessary on that bottle = when in use, and that is the MOD. Go back and read our gas mixing rules, = our transport rules, our marking rules and our deployment rules to see = how the entire system works.=20 Piecemeal compromising bullshit does not work and leads to a screwup.=20 See the WKPP.org website for a FULLl explanation. =20 Phi Le I have no beef with you, you may find it hard to believe that I = actually care what happens to the people that dive with me, after being = on 3 trips that divers lost their life on, it makes me very cautious = with what goes on during the predive and dive. Ok, so there was 2 = questions if you want to count that last one, the answer is Yes. ;-) =20 JT =20 At 01:48 AM 8/15/00 +0200, Phi Le wrote: =20 JT, =20 I don't know you nor MHK, and don't care if either of you guys = use alu 80. The people I dive with don't use alu 80 as stages in the = ocean. When I am visiting Florida, I use 2 X alu 40 for 50% and O2. At = home (Europe or Asia), I use 2 X alu 7L. And that's more than enough for = down to 300 ft. =20 Ask George if he uses alu 80 for the ocean dives! =20 I wasn't stabbing at you. I didn't understand why any Capt or = divers (not my buddies) would care how I mark my stages or what gas I = have in my tanks (providing I don't do deep air, etc.). I don't dive = with them eventhough we go out on the same boat since I would have my = buddies. And if they need to grab a bottle in case of emergency, the = content is marked by tape at the tank neck. =20 So basically, I was only disagreeing with your reasoning for the = need to add "FT" after the MOD. =20 That's not some DIR party-lines, JT. It's just common sense! And = stop been so damn defensive, not everybody is looking to flame other = people. =20 I re-read mine, and there were actually 2 questions :-) =20 -Phi -----Original Message-----=20 From: Capt JT [mailto:captjt@mi*.co*]=20 Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 1:33 AM=20 To: Phi Le=20 Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com=20 Subject: RE: re vb tech report =20 =20 Phi Le=20 You are correct, after rereading it, I sounded just = like "George", forgive my poor taste in words. =20 =20 Hint: nobody is diving 80cf aluminum stages in the ocean = so you are barking up the wrong tree there. The rest of the post is too = stupid to read.=20 Hint: you better go look at some of the photos on my = site you will see MHK and Myself using alum 80's and read below the = email from George where he directs the NE divers to go look, it is the = same thing I posted.=20 BTW, I took your question as a stab at me, reread yours = and will see you only ask one real question, the rest was standard DIR = answers, statements no questions at all.=20 =20 =20 =20 At 03:15 PM 8/10/00 -0400, Trey wrote:=20 JJ, my opin. is that XXXXXXXXX needs to go to=20 http://www.wkpp.org and read my DIR configuration=20 article under "Equipment" and then explain that to=20 XXXXX and the others. This in cludes our bottle=20 marking scheme which is at the heart of gas diving. =20 =20 We can not have an intelligent discussion until that=20 effort is made, and we can not expect XXXXXXX or=20 anyone else to think that wearing some wing or some=20 bottle on some side means anything without this=20 explanation. =20 =20 =20 =20 At 12:12 AM 8/15/00 +0200, Phi Le wrote: JT,=20 =20 First of all, you complaint about George's delivery = style and you called my questions "bullshit" ?=20 =20 You claimed to do something better (stage marking) = and I was sincerely interested in finding out. You gave an answer which = I felt was probable, but not worth the trouble to adopt (mark FT after = the MOD). So I asked for clarity and you pulled the "WKPP = wannabees"-bullshit.=20 =20 Why do you think that anyone want to sniff anyone = else's butt ? People are on this list to exchange information. So if you = have nothing to share, then STFU, stop pretending like you do and waste = everybody's time. I don't have time to trade insults with you.=20 =20 Just re-read your posting below and ask somebody to = explain DIR to you, you have no clue of what you are trying to slam.=20 =20 Hint: nobody is diving 80cf aluminum stages in the = ocean so you are barking up the wrong tree there. The rest of the post = is too stupid to read.=20 =20 -Phi=20 =20 -----Original Message-----=20 From: Capt JT [mailto:captjt@mi*.co*]=20 Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 10:13 PM=20 To: Phi Le=20 Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com=20 Subject: RE: re vb tech report=20 Below in BOLD is the section about stages written by = George Irvine and is still on the WKPP org. web site in the equipment = section. Since most NE wreckers have turned their back on techdiver due = to GI tactics, the only source of information they can get without being = pounded "WKPP wanna bees" is this site or others who are doing nothing = more than sniffing GI butt with this same copied info.=20 Stages should be aluminum 80's.=20 Right off the bat they can see that GI is off his = rocker, he has already told everyone not to change any of his system, = they already know that it is much easier to carry a 45 steel stage than = an eighty on a wreck dive. Alum 40's are better for wreck dives, easier = to manage, but he does not say that in this on the site.=20 These swing equally from negative to=20 positive with air, less negative with gas, by the = amount of the air or=20 gas carried. They are rigged with stainless steel = bolt snaps, the size=20 of which is determined by whether or not your diving = requires gloves,=20 They have already figured this out also, except = Brass will do at less cost, they dive cold water so they knew about the = size for the gloves LONG before he did.=20 and those are attached by a piece of 1/4" line run = under a hose clamp=20 halfway down the tank and tied to the neck. The = upper clip should be=20 tight to the break of the neck, the lower clip = should have plenty of=20 tail to work with. The bottle needs to be held close = in the front and=20 lose in the back to prevent drag. There should NEVER = be any metal to=20 metal connections of any part of your rig.=20 This is something they would not know or understand, = UNLESS you have scootered with stages and without. =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 Stages need to be permanently marked as to their = maximum operating=20 depth in three inch high letters placed horizontally = in the orientation=20 of the tank on either side so that the diver can see = what he is=20 breathing, and so can his buddy, no mater where the = tank is. The stage=20 reg is rigged with a short pressure gauge which is = bent back on itself=20 to face the diver and held in place by bungee cord = at the first stage,=20 The reg hose must be the octopus length. The stage = regs are always=20 parked on the bottle and the bottle turned off = unless in use. Stages are=20 generally worn on the left side for streamlining, = and because of the=20 position and balance of the rest of the gear and the = other hoses so as=20 not to interfere with the operation of any other = gear, as well as the=20 scooter , which is driven with the right hand, = favoring the right side.=20 Is this the best reasons you can write about for = marking stages? A lot of the divers dive SOLO like it or not, so that = buddy stuff is a waste to them.Also don't hold your breath, while your = waiting for everyone to start buddy diving , deal with what their doing = now. Breathing correct gas is good, easy to see what your breathing. =20 =20 To deploy a stage, we look for the correct depth = marking, we put the=20 reg around our neck, we then turn on the bottle , = put the reg in our=20 mouth, and if we can breath, we are breathing the = correct gas. It is=20 just that simple. No other convolutions are = necessary, and would only add=20 to the chance for error.=20 Yes it is very simple, but you need to put it out so = they can understand it and why they should do it.=20 The 3" marking work very well for our group here, = for the very deep dives I like to have my stages delivered to me, my = name and MOD are on them , it also puts the support diver with me to = make sure everything is OK.=20 Should I need extra gas I need only point to the = markings and the support diver can go to the boat and any bottle will do = as they are all mark with 3"MOD just get one that matches what I need. = This can be done on any dive, if a diver is low on needed gas all he has = to do is point to the MOD and his name, that way we know who is in = trouble. Also makes it is easy for the crew to locate extra gas for him = if everyone is marking their tanks the same way, it is not a CF trying = to read those little bullshit tags that fall off.=20 Phi Le=20 I will only answer one of those bullshit questions = below. =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 At 04:07 PM 8/14/00 +0200, Phi Le wrote:=20 JT, =20 =20 So you feel there is an issue that people might = be mistaken for a stage=20 marked for 60 ft as EAN60. That's a = possibility... =20 =20 But why would the Capt and other divers be = worrying about *my* stages ? BECAUSE WE CARE! =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 Obviously I will be diving with my buddies who = would know what the markings=20 mean. The stage(s) will be with me u/w so no one = will breath it without my=20 knowledge. =20 =20 If someone wants to use them in case of an = emergency on the boat, the oxygen=20 deco stage is clearly marked "Oxygen" and the = rest has the content analysis=20 tape at the neck. =20 =20 Am I still missing something ? =20 =20 -Phi =20 =20 -----Original Message-----=20 From: Capt JT [mailto:captjt@mi*.co*]=20 Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 3:32 PM=20 To: Phi Le=20 Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com=20 Subject: RE: re vb tech report =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 There is no better system than what the WKPP use = at this time, but as a=20 Capt and diver on boats that carry numerous = divers on trips who have no=20 idea what the markings mean, I have added FT(=3D = feet) to my stages so there=20 is no confusion on their part.=20 If one does not like the FT he can simply cover = it up with the rubber=20 intertube as JJ did to my tanks he used when = they were here. =20 =20 I will make a detailed list of why making stages = in the 3" MOD works for us=20 here and why NE wreck divers should follow suit = in a later post. =20 =20 At 01:44 PM 8/14/00 +0200, you wrote:=20 >From: Capt JT <captjt@mi*.co*>=20 ><snip>=20 >The 2 big things we do not agree on are:=20 > >2) Reasons why you mark stages...=20 ><snip>=20 >=20 >JT,=20 >=20 >Why do you disagree with it ?=20 >=20 >And since you are marking stages differently, = you must feel that your way=20 is=20 >better. Could you elaborate on your *better* = system ?=20 >=20 >-Phi =20 "You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to = get in the water" Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more Web Site http://www.capt-jt.com/ Email captjt@mi*.co* =20 =20 "You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to get = in the water" Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more Web Site http://www.capt-jt.com/ Email captjt@mi*.co* =20 ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C00631.5AECB3C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.72.3110.7"' name=3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Jt, not the feet thing again - I = thought you=20 were going to pull some real bullshit. I'd like to know what feet has to = do with=20 wreck diving , and do not tell me it is because the dumb fucks up there = don't=20 mark their bottles so can not understand yours.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The more crap you put on the bottle , = the bigger=20 than chance of a misread .</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>There is only one piece fo information = that is=20 necessary on that bottle when in use, and that is the MOD. Go back and = read our=20 gas mixing rules, our transport rules, our marking rules and our = deployment=20 rules to see how the entire system works. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Piecemeal compromising bullshit does = not work and=20 leads to a screwup. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>See the WKPP.org website for a FULLl=20 explanation.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> <BR><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 solid 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: = 5px"></FONT>Phi=20 Le<BR>I have no beef with you, you may find it hard to believe that = I=20 actually care what happens to the people that dive with me, after = being on 3=20 trips that divers lost their life on, it makes me very = cautious with=20 what goes on during the predive and dive. Ok, so there was 2 = questions if=20 you want to count that last one, the answer is Yes.=20 ;-)<BR><BR>JT<BR><BR> At 01:48 AM 8/15/00 +0200, Phi Le=20 wrote:<BR><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3Darial size=3D2> <BLOCKQUOTE cite type =3D cite>JT,</FONT><BR><BR><FONT = color=3D#0000ff=20 face=3Darial size=3D2>I don't know you nor MHK, and don't care = if either of=20 you guys use alu 80. The people I dive with don't use alu 80 as = stages=20 in the ocean. When I am visiting Florida, I use 2 X alu 40 for = 50% and=20 O2. At home (Europe or Asia), I use 2 X alu 7L. And that's more = than=20 enough for down to 300 ft.</FONT><BR><BR><FONT color=3D#0000ff = face=3Darial=20 size=3D2>Ask George if he uses alu 80 for the ocean=20 dives!</FONT><BR><BR><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3Darial = size=3D2>I wasn't=20 stabbing at you. I didn't understand why any Capt or divers (not = my=20 buddies) would care how I mark my stages or what gas I have in = my tanks=20 (providing I don't do deep air, etc.). I don't dive with them = eventhough=20 we go out on the same boat since I would have my buddies. And if = they=20 need to grab a bottle in case of emergency, the content is = marked by=20 tape at the tank neck.</FONT><BR><BR><FONT color=3D#0000ff = face=3Darial=20 size=3D2>So basically, I was only disagreeing with your = reasoning for the=20 need to add "FT" after the MOD.</FONT><BR><BR><FONT=20 color=3D#0000ff face=3Darial size=3D2>That's not some DIR = party-lines, JT.=20 It's just common sense! And stop been so damn defensive, not = everybody=20 is looking to flame other people.</FONT><BR><BR><FONT = color=3D#0000ff=20 face=3Darial size=3D2>I re-read mine, and there were actually 2 = questions=20 :-)</FONT><BR><BR><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3Darial = size=3D2>-Phi</FONT> <BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=3Dtahoma size=3D2> <DL> <DD>-----Original Message-----=20 <DD>From:</B> Capt JT [<A = href=3D"mailto:captjt@mi*.co*"=20 eudora =3D autourl>mailto:captjt@mi*.co*</A>]=20 <DD>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 15, 2000 1:33 AM=20 <DD>To:</B> Phi Le=20 <DD>Cc:</B> techdiver@aquanaut.com=20 <DD>Subject:</B> RE: re vb tech report<BR><BR></FONT> <DD>Phi Le=20 <DD> You are correct, after rereading it, I sounded = just=20 like "George", forgive my poor taste in=20 words.<BR><BR><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3Darial = size=3D2> <DD>Hint: nobody is diving 80cf aluminum stages in the = ocean so=20 you are barking up the wrong tree there. The rest of the = post is=20 too stupid to read.</FONT>=20 <DD>Hint: you better go look at some of the photos on my = site=20 you will see MHK and Myself using alum 80's and read = below the=20 email from George where he directs the NE divers = to go=20 look, it is the same thing I posted.=20 <DD>BTW, I took your question as a stab at me, reread = yours and=20 will see you only ask one real question, the rest was = standard=20 DIR answers, statements no questions at all.=20 <DD> <BR><BR> <DD>At 03:15 PM 8/10/00 -0400, Trey wrote:=20 <DD>JJ, my opin. is that XXXXXXXXX needs to go to<FONT=20 color=3D#0000ff>=20 <DD><A href=3D"http://www.wkpp.org/" eudora =3D=20 autourl>http://www.wkpp.org</A></FONT></U> and read my = DIR=20 configuration=20 <DD>article under "Equipment" and then explain = that to=20 =20 <DD>XXXXX and the others. This in cludes our bottle=20 <DD>marking scheme which is at the heart of gas = diving.<BR><BR> <DD>We can not have an intelligent discussion until that = <DD>effort is made, and we can not expect XXXXXXX or=20 <DD>anyone else to think that wearing some wing or some=20 <DD>bottle on some side means anything without this=20 <DD>explanation.<BR><BR><BR><BR> <DD> At 12:12 AM 8/15/00 +0200, Phi Le wrote:<FONT = color=3D#0000ff face=3Darial size=3D2> <BLOCKQUOTE cite type =3D cite> <DD>JT,</FONT>=20 <DD> <FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3Darial = size=3D2>=20 <DD>First of all, you complaint about George's = delivery=20 style and you called my questions = "bullshit" ?=20 </FONT> <DD> <FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3Darial = size=3D2>=20 <DD>You claimed to do something better (stage = marking) and I=20 was sincerely interested in finding out. You gave an = answer=20 which I felt was probable, but not worth the trouble = to=20 adopt (mark FT after the MOD). So I asked for = clarity and=20 you pulled the "WKPP = wannabees"-bullshit.</FONT>=20 <DD> <FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3Darial = size=3D2>=20 <DD>Why do you think that anyone want to sniff = anyone else's=20 butt ? People are on this list to exchange = information. So=20 if you have nothing to share, then STFU, stop = pretending=20 like you do and waste everybody's time. I don't have = time to=20 trade insults with you.</FONT>=20 <DD> <FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3Darial = size=3D2>=20 <DD>Just re-read your posting below and ask somebody = to=20 explain DIR to you, you have no clue of what you are = trying=20 to slam.</FONT>=20 <DD> <FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3Darial = size=3D2>=20 <DD>Hint: nobody is diving 80cf aluminum stages in = the ocean=20 so you are barking up the wrong tree there. The rest = of the=20 post is too stupid to read.</FONT>=20 <DD> <FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3Darial = size=3D2>=20 <DD>-Phi</FONT>=20 <DD> <FONT face=3Dtahoma size=3D2>=20 <DD> -----Original Message-----=20 <DD>From:</B> Capt JT [mailto:captjt@mi*.co*] = <DD>Sent:</B> Monday, August 14, 2000 10:13 PM=20 <DD>To:</B> Phi Le=20 <DD>Cc:</B> techdiver@aquanaut.com=20 <DD>Subject:</B> RE: re vb tech report</FONT>=20 <DD>Below in BOLD is the section about stages = written by=20 George Irvine and is still on the WKPP org. web site = in the=20 equipment section. Since most NE wreckers have = turned their=20 back on techdiver due to GI tactics, the only source = of=20 information they can get without being pounded = "WKPP=20 wanna bees" is this site or others who are = doing=20 nothing more than sniffing GI butt with this same = copied=20 info.<FONT face=3D"Arial Black, Helvetica">=20 <DD>Stages should be aluminum 80's.</FONT>=20 <DD>Right off the bat they can see that GI is off = his=20 rocker, he has already told everyone not to change = any of=20 his system, they already know that it is much easier = to=20 carry a 45 steel stage than an eighty on a wreck = dive. Alum=20 40's are better for wreck dives, easier to manage, = but he=20 does not say that in this on the site.<FONT=20 face=3D"Arial Black, Helvetica">=20 <DD> These swing equally from negative to=20 <DD>positive with air, less negative with gas, by = the amount=20 of the air or=20 <DD>gas carried. They are rigged with stainless = steel bolt=20 snaps, the size=20 <DD>of which is determined by whether or not your = diving=20 requires gloves,</FONT>=20 <DD>They have already figured this out also, except = Brass=20 will do at less cost, they dive cold water so they = knew=20 about the size for the gloves LONG before he did. = <FONT=20 face=3D"Arial Black, Helvetica"> <DD>and those are attached by a piece of 1/4" = line run=20 under a hose clamp=20 <DD>halfway down the tank and tied to the neck. The = upper=20 clip should be=20 <DD>tight to the break of the neck, the lower clip = should=20 have plenty of=20 <DD>tail to work with. The bottle needs to be held = close in=20 the front and=20 <DD>lose in the back to prevent drag. There should = NEVER be=20 any metal to=20 <DD>metal connections of any part of your = rig.</FONT>=20 <DD>This is something they would not know or = understand,=20 UNLESS you have scootered with stages and=20 without.<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><FONT=20 face=3D"Arial Black, Helvetica"> <DD>Stages need to be permanently marked as to their = maximum=20 operating=20 <DD>depth in three inch high letters placed = horizontally in=20 the orientation=20 <DD>of the tank on either side so that the diver can = see=20 what he is=20 <DD>breathing, and so can his buddy, no mater where = the tank=20 is. The stage=20 <DD>reg is rigged with a short pressure gauge which = is bent=20 back on itself=20 <DD>to face the diver and held in place by bungee = cord at=20 the first stage,=20 <DD>The reg hose must be the octopus length. The = stage regs=20 are always=20 <DD>parked on the bottle and the bottle turned off = unless in=20 use. Stages are=20 <DD>generally worn on the left side for = streamlining, and=20 because of the=20 <DD>position and balance of the rest of the gear and = the=20 other hoses so as=20 <DD>not to interfere with the operation of any other = gear,=20 as well as the=20 <DD>scooter , which is driven with the right hand, = favoring=20 the right side.</FONT>=20 <DD>Is this the best reasons you can write about for = marking=20 stages? A lot of the divers dive SOLO like it or = not, so=20 that buddy stuff is a waste to them.Also don't hold = your=20 breath, while your waiting for everyone to start = buddy=20 diving , deal with what their doing now. = Breathing=20 correct gas is good, easy to see what your=20 breathing.<BR><BR><FONT face=3D"Arial Black, = Helvetica"> <DD>To deploy a stage, we look for the correct depth = marking, we put the=20 <DD>reg around our neck, we then turn on the bottle = , put=20 the reg in our=20 <DD>mouth, and if we can breath, we are breathing = the=20 correct gas. It is=20 <DD>just that simple. No other convolutions are = necessary,=20 and would only add=20 <DD>to the chance for error. </FONT> <DD>Yes it is very simple, but you need to put it = out so=20 they can understand it and why they should do it.=20 <DD>The 3" marking work very well for our group = here,=20 for the very deep dives I like to have my stages = delivered=20 to me, my name and MOD are on them , it also puts = the=20 support diver with me to make sure everything is OK. = <DD>Should I need extra gas I need only point to the = markings and the support diver can go to the boat = and any=20 bottle will do as they are all mark with 3"MOD = just get=20 one that matches what I need. This can be done on = any dive,=20 if a diver is low on needed gas all he has to do is = point to=20 the MOD and his name, that way we know who is in = trouble.=20 Also makes it is easy for the crew to locate extra = gas for=20 him if everyone is marking their tanks the same way, = it is=20 not a CF trying to read those little bullshit tags = that fall=20 off.=20 <DD>Phi Le=20 <DD>I will only answer one of those bullshit = questions=20 below.<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR> <DD>At 04:07 PM 8/14/00 +0200, Phi Le wrote:=20 <BLOCKQUOTE cite type =3D cite> <DD>JT,<BR><BR> <DD>So you feel there is an issue that people = might be=20 mistaken for a stage=20 <DD>marked for 60 ft as EAN60. That's a=20 possibility...<BR><BR> <DD>But why would the Capt and other divers be = worrying=20 about *my* stages ?</DD></BLOCKQUOTE> <DD>BECAUSE WE CARE!<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE cite type =3D cite> <DD>Obviously I will be diving with my buddies = who would=20 know what the markings=20 <DD>mean. The stage(s) will be with me u/w so no = one=20 will breath it without my=20 <DD>knowledge.<BR><BR> <DD>If someone wants to use them in case of an = emergency=20 on the boat, the oxygen=20 <DD>deco stage is clearly marked = "Oxygen" and=20 the rest has the content analysis=20 <DD>tape at the neck.<BR><BR> <DD>Am I still missing something ?<BR><BR> <DD>-Phi<BR><BR> <DD>-----Original Message-----=20 <DD>From: Capt JT [<A=20 href=3D"mailto:captjt@mi*.co*" eudora =3D = autourl>mailto:captjt@mi*.co*</A>]=20 <DD>Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 3:32 PM=20 <DD>To: Phi Le=20 <DD>Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com=20 <DD>Subject: RE: re vb tech=20 report<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR> <DD>There is no better system than what the WKPP = use at=20 this time, but as a=20 <DD>Capt and diver on boats that carry numerous = divers=20 on trips who have no=20 <DD>idea what the markings mean, I have added = FT(=3D feet)=20 to my stages so there=20 <DD>is no confusion on their part.=20 <DD>If one does not like the FT he can simply = cover it=20 up with the rubber=20 <DD>intertube as JJ did to my tanks he used when = they=20 were here.<BR><BR> <DD>I will make a detailed list of why making = stages in=20 the 3" MOD works for us=20 <DD>here and why NE wreck divers should follow = suit in=20 a later post.<BR><BR> <DD> At 01:44 PM 8/14/00 +0200, you wrote: = <DD>>From: Capt JT = <captjt@mi*.co*>=20 <DD>><snip>=20 <DD>>The 2 big things we do not agree on are: = <DD>> >2) Reasons why you mark stages...=20 <DD>><snip>=20 <DD>>=20 <DD>>JT,=20 <DD>>=20 <DD>>Why do you disagree with it ?=20 <DD>>=20 <DD>>And since you are marking stages = differently,=20 you must feel that your way=20 <DD>is=20 <DD>>better. Could you elaborate on your = *better*=20 system ?=20 <DD>>=20 = <DD>>-Phi</DD></BLOCKQUOTE></DD></BLOCKQUOTE></DD></DL>& lt;/BLOCKQUOTE><B= R>"You=20 can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to get = in the=20 water"<BR><FONT color=3D#0000ff>Your Guide to Great Wreck = Diving=20 along the East Coast & more<BR> Web Site <A=20 href=3D"http://www.capt-jt.com/" eudora =3D=20 = autourl>http://www.capt-jt.com/</A><BR>Email =20 captjt@mi*.co*<BR></FONT></U></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>"You = can't learn=20 to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to get in the=20 water"<BR><FONT color=3D#0000ff><U>Your Guide to Great Wreck = Diving along=20 the East Coast & more<BR> Web Site <A=20 href=3D"http://www.capt-jt.com/" eudora =3D=20 autourl>http://www.capt-jt.com/</A><BR>Email = captjt@mi*.co*<BR><BR></FONT></U></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML > ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C00631.5AECB3C0-- -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. 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