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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 19:54:10 -0400
To: Art Greenberg <artg@ec*.ne*>, Joel Markwell <joeldm@mi*.co*>
From: Maggie <mmowens@pa*.co*>
Subject: Re: un-kitting before / after getting back on board
Cc: Techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
I'd second what Art has to say.

Climbing the ladder with fins on is not all that tough once you get used to 
it. Like anything else, it just takes a little practise. Where do you dive? 
Here in the Northeast (where climbing the ladder with fins on is SOP), it 
is very inconvenient to put on or take off fins while wearing thick gloves. 
And why bother when there's a good chance you'll get thrown off the ladder 
and have to swim back to it?  For the same reason, we keep our masks on and 
regulators in our mouths.

Here in the Northeast, people routinely climb the ladder with large doubles 
and two stage bottles, not to mention catch bags crammed full of lobsters, 
fish, and heavy artifacts.

In addition, if your fins are attached to your feet where they belong, it's 
unlikely that you'll drop them.

I can't imagine any situation in which climbing the ladder with fins on 
would be dangerous. Perhaps you could enlighten us.

I've never tried the knee and heel technique Dave describes. If it's not a 
T-ladder, the ladder is usually wide enough that you can cross your leg in 
front of you, toe turned out, put your heel on the rung, turn your toe in, 
slide your foot over to the correct side, then repeat with the other foot. 
Once again, this is hard to describe, but makes sense when you see it in 
action.

At 07:52 AM 10/28/99 -0400, Art Greenberg wrote:
>On Tue, 26 Oct 1999, Joel Markwell wrote:
>
> > Are you guys serious about climbing ladders with fins on?
>
>Yes.
>
> > I can't imagine any situation where it would be preferable to climb a
> > ladder with fins on.
>
>Try diving where the boat is tied to the wreck and there is a current
>running.
>
> > The one time I did do it, it was a pain in the ass and I endangered
> > myself by doing so.
>
>Must have been the wrong type of ladder.
>
> > I would CERTAINLY never wear fins in high seas (the highest I've 
> experienced
> > on a boat is 8 foot swells). If you do fall off, get negative, don your
> > fins, swim back. If you can't easily doff and don your fins, then you have
> > some work to do.
>
>In the anchored boat and current scenario, you would likely be too far
>from the boat to swim back by the time you had your fins on.
>
> > When I tried to climb a ladder with fins on I was wearing an 80 and was
> > climbing back on board to check a camera. I'll never do it again and the
> > notion of doing the same stunt with doubles or any slung gear is ludicrous!
>
>It is common, nearly universal practice in New Jersey.
>
>--
>Art Greenberg
>artg@ec*.ne*
>
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Maggie, who seems to be a northeast-wreck-diving-geek and boat monkee
mmowens@pa*.co*
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