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Tom and Art, I am treading into waters here where I don't have a lot of expertise: ripping current, doubles, high seas, so I'm not gonna stick by my guns without more input. More input would probably mean getting seasick in NJ or the UK, so the next new wave in wreck diving may have to wait. <g> I'm primarily a cave diver. I have limited doubles work off of boats and even less off of bucking boats. I do have a number of dives in ripping current and a number of dives in what I consider to be high seas (for diving purposes): eight foot seas, mostly in singles. In none of those cases could you convince me to climb a ladder with fins on, "T" or no. In fact, the few "T" style ladders I've had the misfortune to climb were flimsy pieces of crap, but maybe yours are a tad more stable. I will say that there is no way my fins are coming off my forearms in a fall. I would think that falling would be more likely while climbing a ladder wearing fins and I should think that I'd be more likely to break a strap or slip a fin off and lose it (even worse) while all that weight of doubles and drysuit are pressing down on and distorting the rubber in my fins; fins aren't shoes. At that point I'm putting all my weight on them in a small and slippery area and in a sense, my life is dependent on a thin strap of rubber. What happens if the strap breaks or is forced off; the fin is completely lost and I have ONE fin? Isn't that the more likely scenario? My own feeling is that falling whilst climbing on a bucking boat in fins and whacking my head is more of a danger than having to redon my fins in current, but again, I've never had to do it wearing doubles in the above conditions. Also, like any sane diver, I keep my reg in my mouth and my mask on my head until I'm sitting down. I'm not going to suggest to any of you guys diving wrecks in these conditions to try this. Hell, for several years I thought wrapping your long hose around your neck and donating it was stupid and I said so publicly . . .. little did I know until I actually _tried_ it, not once or ten years ago in training so I could say I did, but I finally, really made the effort to learn and see if it worked and it did. Now I don't dive any other way. So, I'll keep an open mind about this and maybe someday I'll get some 15' seas and a ripping enough current and think twice. Until then . . . thanks for the input. Later, JoeL > From: "tom wylie" <hoveller@ho*.co*> > Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:38:45 GMT > To: joeldm@mi*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com > Subject: Re: un-kitting before / after getting back on board > > With the swell I think that the fear is comming off the ladder with no fins > on hence you have a lack of propulsion until you relocate them. If you drop > them, well..... > > I think the feeling here is only dekit when the dive is done, ie when you > are on the deck. I suppose it would be the same as removing you mouth piece > whilst on the way up the ladder...just not done... I do not know if this is > DIR or not...it works and is IMHO the safest given the sea conditions in the > UK... > > Hope this adds a bit of insight.... always willing to be convinced otherwise > providing you show me first on a nice choppy day... :-) -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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