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From: "tom wylie" <hoveller@ho*.co*>
To: joeldm@mi*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: un-kitting before / after getting back on board
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:38:45 GMT
Joel

I would say that this is 'the norm' in UK waters, I have seen nobody on a 
dive boat with a spine ( -|-|-|-|- ) ladder remove their fins to come up the 
ladder and I have been diving 15 years all over the UK.

This is man, woman, with double or singles whatever... others in the UK feel 
free to correct me on this....I am no oracle

With the swell I think that the fear is comming off the ladder with no fins 
on hence you have a lack of propulsion until you relocate them. If you drop 
them, well.....

I think the feeling here is only dekit when the dive is done, ie when you 
are on the deck. I suppose it would be the same as removing you mouth piece 
whilst on the way up the ladder...just not done... I do not know if this is 
DIR or not...it works and is IMHO the safest given the sea conditions in the 
UK...

Hope this adds a bit of insight.... always willing to be convinced otherwise 
providing you show me first on a nice choppy day... :-)

Tom


>From: Joel Markwell <joeldm@mi*.co*>
>To: Techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>Subject: Re: un-kitting before / after getting back on board
>Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 11:23:01 +0000
>
>Are you guys serious about climbing ladders with fins on? I can't imagine
>any situation where it would be preferable to climb a ladder with fins on. 
>I
>would never climbed a ladder, either with a single 80 or double 104s 
>wearing
>my fins. The one time I did do it, it was a pain in the ass and I 
>endangered
>myself by doing so. Which is more likely to be fatal, having to put your
>fins back on in the water because you fell back in or smacking your head on
>a rail and your foot slips off and you fall unconscious into the water? I
>always take them off once I have a hand on the ladder and sling my fins on
>my forearms to climb the ladder. It's easy to do, it keep me in control of
>my equipment and I have them available if I fall off the ladder. I've never
>lost a fin in the water either wearing it or when so slung.
>
>I would CERTAINLY never wear fins in high seas (the highest I've 
>experienced
>on a boat is 8 foot swells). If you do fall off, get negative, don your
>fins, swim back. If you can't easily doff and don your fins, then you have
>some work to do.
>
>When I tried to climb a ladder with fins on I was wearing an 80 and was
>climbing back on board to check a camera. I'll never do it again and the
>notion of doing the same stunt with doubles or any slung gear is ludicrous!
>
>Any other input on this?
>
>Later,
>
>JoeL
>

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