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From: "Bill Mee" <wwm@sa*.ne*>
To: <tgunther@co*.co*>, <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Cc: <kirvine@sa*.ne*>, "\"H2Ocaver\"" <ezimmerm@ch*.ca*.us*.ed*>,
     "\"Capt JT\"" ,
     "\"Joel Silverstein\"" ,
     , ,
     ,
     "\"Chris Werner\"" ,
Subject: The Six-Dollar Bozo
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 17:32:39 -0400


Tod,

I am afraid that you are the Six Dollar Bozo on this one.  In your zeal to
be a smart ass and run your alligator mouth you have failed to put your
brain in gear before jerking off on the keyboard.  If you had even a shred
of interest  in the physiology of diving you would first have read the
chapter in Peter Bennet's book (i.e the Director of DAN) "The Physiology and
Medicine of Diving" entitled "Oxygen Toxicity" and the equivalent chapter in
Guyton's Human Physiology on Hyperbaric Physiology.

If you had performed this simple action in lieu of jerking off on the
gawking the public from your monkey cage you would have learned several
things.  Among them:

At hyperbaric oxygen partial pressures the Oxygen-Hemoglobin buffering
system becomes saturated and the concentration of molecular oxygen begins to
rise dramatically in the blood plasma and tissues. This leads to the
formation of  free radical intermediates such as the superoxide anion,
hydroxyl radical, singlet oxygen radical and cytotoxic oxidants such as
hydrogen peroxide. It is accepted that the presence of radicals and
intermediates can lead to pathological effects on organs and tissues.  There
are a variety of built in biochemical defences against oxygen derived free
radical damage which involve specific enzymes such as cytochrome oxidase and
superoxide dismutase, catalase and glutathione peroxidase and guess what?
Vitamin E, which reacts with chain propagating fatty acid radicals and
reduces lipid peroxy and other related radicals. This has been demonstrated
experimentally in vitro. Neurologic tissue is particularly rich in lipids
and we would all agree that seizures and neural destruction are associated
with persistent exposures to elevated oxygen partial pressures.

Given the above as a background I do not consider it a frivolous indulgence
to increase one's intake of Alpha Tocopherols (vitamin E) prior to a dive
involving long exposures to hyperbaric oxygen.   At worst you might suffer
from some unpleasant gastric reflux and at best you might mitigate some of
the obvious pulmonary toicity and other internal and asymptomatic damage
which occurs.

As usual Tod you seem to vacilate from being sensible to being a blathering
shill for one of our skulking detractors. I would appreciate it if you would
divulge who the mole is so that we can put the real score card out on this
weasel.  It would be well worth ratting this guy out for the massive coke
spitting entertainment value alone.  Quit holding out on us.

Best regards,

Bill Mee
>
>>George:
>
>>With all due respect, I don't really have to address the folly of popping
>>anti-oxidants do I?     This is well documented in the medical industry,
>and I
>>hate to say this, but they are the experts in this area and you are not
>(though
>>you might want to think so).   Sometimes it is so absurd how you use this
>>"safety record" to justify everything you and the WKPP do.   I mean
>seriously,
>>it's plain nutty.     With a straight face you admit that that yes I take
a
>lot
>>of anti-oxidants but we don't die and therefore it must follow that our
>small
>>band of WKPP is right and the vast medical industry is wrong.    Come on,
>>George, transcend above the "farm animal stupid" you accuse so many others
>of
>>being.   This 'we are super-humans and can do anything we want because we
>don't
>>die' is just looney.   Looney, George, just looney.   It sounds about as
>>illogical and hillbilly dumb as an article I read about recently of a
>family in
>>the backhills of Kentucky who claim they've drank possum oil every morning
>for
>>three generations and because they've lived longer than all the other
>families
>>in the hills this "proves" that possum oil makes people live longer.
>That's
>>about how silly your reasoning is, George.    The medical industry has
very
>>sagient and well-documented reasons for avoiding the taking of
>anti-oxidants
>>like they are candy store tic-tacs.   Ignore this advise if you wish, but
>stop
>>positing yourself as if you are  the Six-Million Dollar Man.   You make
>yourself
>>look like a silly little clown instead.
>
>>Tod
>
>p.s.   Thank you for your insight on the other areas discussed.   I agree
>with
>you.
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