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Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 08:42:26 -0400
From: Wrolf Courtney <wrolf@wr*.ne*>
Organization: Wrolf's Wreck http://www.wrolf.net
To: William Allen <william@ca*.co*>
CC: TECH LIST <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: Redundant Equipment and Holgarth

William Allen wrote:

> My point if you count your buddy as your redundant back up, how is that
> safe? Never, Never, never count on some one else to pull your butt out of a
> sling. If you do count on him, and while diving get separated what happens?
> A buddy is nice to have, but to count on him how is that rational. We dive
> in an area where buddy separation is a fact of life, turn your head, stop to
> see something and he's gone, a feature of poor visibility diving. I'm sorry
> if I feel increased danger doesn't stop me from enjoying things I like. It's
> called risk management it's throughout one's life from bankers, businessman,
> to insurance people. You look at the risk, do your planning to minimize it,
> than rationally decide is there an alternative and then you ask can I accept
> this risk?
> I think some of the most dangerous diving i have ever heard of is what the
> wkpp does. These guys know the risk, work every posible angle to minumize
> the risk. The accept a very real risk every time they do this, should they
> say no because of the risk? I know they look at their dive buddies as a last
> line of defense, there if all else fails. The first line should always be
> you and your brain, your equipment, your personal redundency. Most buddies,
> unless you dive reguarly togther, share goals and have similar skill levels
> can add more risk than redundecy.

Couldn't agree with you more William, especially the last sentence.

Do not expect to have a rational conversation with Sean.  It is like those post
dive
conversations with the buddy who disappears.  They see themselves as in
the right, now what's the question?

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Wrolf              wrolf@wr*.ne*

Wrolf's Wreck:     http://wrolf.net
Wrolf's Net.Wreck: http://wrolf.net/netmgmt.shtml


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