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Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 15:40:17 -0400
From: Wrolf Courtney <wrolf@wr*.ne*>
Organization: Wrolf's Wreck http://www.wrolf.net
To: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>
CC: Billy Williams <bdi@wh*.ne*>, Tech Diver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: Redundant & Buddies & DIR
Much is revealed!

So Jim, like me you usually dive solo, and for the same reasons.

Some points to consider:

The DIR practices are in fact very similar to East Coast diving practices, and
to non-DIR Florida cave diving practices.

The DIR crowd on the Internet are intolerant of any variation from the DIR
practices.  They happy to use language that would make their mothers ashamed.
They have also done the community a great service by providing free
documentation of the DIR system on the Internet.

Wrolf

Jim Cobb wrote:

> Billy-
>
> This is the point I have tried to make over and over and apparently it's
> very hard for people to understand this.
>
> 1. Nobody really cares how you config your gear.
> 2. DIR is system. You can't take bits and pieces of DIR and call yourself
> a DIR diver.
>
> Thats all. Personally I like to dive solo, thus I am not a DIR diver. As
> a solo diver I take 2 devices with me. I do promote DIR and would like to
> have a DIR partner, but they are hard to find and I find that diving solo
> is much less stressful when not having to worry about a "mystery buddy".
>
> I also firmly believe that a DIR buddy team has a much better chance of
> surviving an extreme dive than a solo diver. The Navy SEALs understand
> this, as the core of the teams are the swim buddies. Both come back or
> neither come back is what's expected of them (to take it to an another
> extreme).
>
> So why do I do it? The fact is that solo deco diving is very dangerous
> and moves me that much closer to death, which increases the adrenlin rush
> and improves the dive experience. There is nothing more spine-tingling,
> sinus clearing and anus clenching than the realization that you have just
> fucked up and there is absolutely nobody there to help you. Talk about
> motivation to solve the problem. Talk about a rush.
>
> Now DIR also says to "do it right or don't do it at all", so I am not
> DIR. While my gear is DIR rigged, I'm still not doing it right.
>
> The real argument here is "I want to be a same-ocean buddy diver and
> still call myself DIR" well, you can't and as you have seen from this
> thread, you won't get away with it...
>
>    Jim
>
> Sender: Billy Williams  Date: 5/21/99 9:54 AM
>
> >At 10:28 PM 20/5/99 -0400, Capt JT wrote:
> >>Mike
> >>I agree with you as it is up to the diver as if he sees a need to carry it
> >>..The only reason this thread is going is because one of the WKPP boys has
> >>said you don't need a second BT and then someone disagrees with him.
> >
> >JT, you, Susan, bigbird and others have missed the point.
> >
> >They can dive with an armload of bottom timers. That's
> >their business. Who gives a root. But
> >1) they shouldn't kid themselves that it's DIR.
> >2) they shouldn't try to convince others that it's DIR.
> >
> >When the personal preference crowd like Susan & bigbird
> >mess with the DIR concept, look what happens, they start
> >spreading and encouraging ignorant idiocy like this.....
> >
> >>"My understanding is that the DIR method includes the
> >>reduction of clutter and the minimizing of potential
> >>failure points. Can you really consider a backup BT as
> >>clutter, or an additional failure point? How are people
> >>configuring this backup timer on their gear where it is
> >>considered clutter? I choose not to wear my BT on my
> >>wrist, but on a console, clipped on the left d ring as
> >>in DIR. Is this extra 4 inches of console clutter? "
> >
> >This person is now claiming that diving with a goddamn
> >console is DIR!!!!
> >
> >If susan just wants to say "I dive with a back-up bottom
> >timer." That's her business.
> >
> >If she wants to tell people that what she's diving is DIR,
> >she'll get corrected.
> >
> >rgds     billyw
> >
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