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Subject: Re: "Dangerous on the Net".
To: dlv@ga*.ne* (Dan Volker)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 14:41:09 -0400 (EDT)
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com (techdiver)
From: zimmmt@au*.al*.co* (Mike Zimmerman)
> The Wrolf Courtneys and John Hanzels out there, have the potential to "kill"
> with their ideas. 

This is false and misleading.  Also insulting to anyone who bothers to
think for themselves.  Golly yes, I was reading my mail from Wrolf
the other day, and just ducked that murdering idea as it lept from
the screen.  Whew.  Luckily my co-worker was away from his desk, as that
idea decimated his chair before falling to the floor.

If you want a one-viewpoint list, start your own.  Techdiver was
created long ago as a place to exchange and debate ideas.  It
is a double-edged sword to be sure, but it is better than living
in Orwellian world.  Certainly that might be a "safer" world, but
at what cost?  If you want to live in that world, please feel free.
Some of the rest of us prefer this less-than-perfect one, along
with the freedoms it provides, both to succeed and fail. 

> If Hanzel wants to disagree with George's taste in music---fine---he has the
> right, and this disagreement will "kill" no one. When George/WKPP and DIR
> diving say with absolute certainty, that a certain practice ( say, stuffing
> the long hose, or using tanks with no markings ) is WRONG, for Hanzel or
> Wrolf to "argue" with this, and demand proof, is tantamount to threatening
> the safety of any who listens to them. 

No Dan, the safety of those listening is in their own hands.  They must
make their own decisions about their own safety.

> Yes we all have a right to free speech. But 

There are no "but"s Dan.  Either you have it or you do not.

> do---on issues in which life or death will most certainly result, the
> "Right" to public  free speech can allow an errant individual to commit what
> is in reality, a CRIME against the technical diving community.

The "crime" is committed by those who read the information and cannot
be bothered to reason it out for themselves.  It is no "crime" to have
a dissenting point of view.  I know it rankles you guys that everyone in
the world doesn't awlays agree with you, but life is tough buddy, deal
with it.  If your ideas are truly good, they will stand on their own
merit, not by simply having a total lack of opposition by silencing
any who might disagree.

You cannot protect a fool from themself.  All you can do is f&ck everything
else up by trying so hard.

Regards,
Mike
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