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Jammer says.....
> The closest you're going to get to debate is to be rediculed for taking a 
> stance contrary to the Doing It Right standard, and trying to debate it, 
> while the DIR crowd takes pot shots at you. They're not going to debate 
> you, they're going to ridicule you.

Sounds like a pretty negative opinion of that crowd then.  Thankfully
that is not universally true, and many, when you get them to the side,
just shake their heads and lament the levels of posturing that we all 
see on the lists.

> And you can't tell the difference. You think that because they're not 
> debating you, that either they don't know what they're talking about, 
> your case has merit, or both. 

If it had been George debating, I might grant you that.  But (not to
slam them really) I don't give Al and Jim that much credit.  Their diving
resumes aren't George's.  They can't get away with claiming their record speaks 
for themselves.  I'm not saying they aren't fine divers, but they probably 
aren't leaps and bounds beyond many other competent divers on this list.

G gets away with proof-by-vigorous-arm-waving, but that privilege
doesn't extend to many others. 

> They're not debating you simply because it's more fun not to. The louder 
> you holler, the more fun it is. Ask Mike. He's so blind, they've even 
> named a thread after him, and he still doesn't get it.

Nah, renaming the thread is the last step on the path of ridicule, when
you refuse to let them get away with their unsubstantiated claims.

You're just upset 'cause Jim took your crown away. 

However if you stop arguing with me, I'll be glad to take you
on as an Apprentice and teach you how to win it back :-)

> Getting information on virtually any subject connected with decompression 
> diving out of the WKPP crowd is simple, rewarding, and informative. I've 
> tried to show you clowns why you're not getting what you want, 
> (explanations and information), and you want to debate it with me.

Yes, getting deco info is quite easy.  Seems to involve much less
that gets confused as religious topics.  Its when it comes to gear
that things begin more like a book burning.


Mike
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