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Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 06:03:48 -0400
From: "Katherine V. Irvine" <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Organization: DIR
To: scatsta@mc*.co*
CC: RLatulip@ao*.co*, will@tr*.co*, heseltine@ea*.ne*,
     cavers@ca*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com, rebreather@nw*.co*,
     heyydude@pi*.co*
Subject: Re: CONTINUOUS REBREATHER DEATHS was Re: Death was a Bigot
Tell me all about rebreather diving you moron.


Scatsta wrote:
> 
> Katherine V. Irvine wrote:
> >
> > Scatssa - you need to wake up. The thing does not work, it is a copy of
> > a copy of a failed design that has long since been discovered and
> > corrected. There have been SIX incidents REPORTED, THREE DEATHS, and you
> > want to argue. The machine is a piece , needs to be recalled, and needs
> > to be discontinued. The perpetrators need to be jailed, in my opinion.
> >
> 
> Sorry old boy, I beg to differ. The deaths have to stop, yes, but as far
> as the Inspiration is concerned there has been no indication of
> electronics failure so far.
> 
> The problem (IMHO) is peoples attitude to diving with rebreathers. A lot
> of people consider rebreather diving as a continuation of their diving
> career. Done Nitrox done trimix wots next, oh yeah, rebreathers. Others
> that it's an easy way to extended bottom times. Agencies who do weekend
> rebreather courses have a lot to answer for.
> 
> Rebreather diving is parallel to oc diving. Both going the same way but
> totaly seperate skills. A 1000 dive oc diver is back to square one the
> moment he straps on a rb, a novice. New skills to learn, new and more
> complicated equipment to maintain. This cannot be learnt in a w/end. Its
> going to take months.
> 
> I fly gliders (ok, sailplanes to you lot across the pond :-) ). I have
> getting on for 700hrs and fly in the UK National Championships. You
> can't tell me anything about flying - got the picture? OK so what if I
> wanted to start power flying. Same thing innit? 'cept with an engine. If
> I was to take a w/end course I would soon end up at the bottom of a
> smoking hole. It would take many flying hours and more exams to become
> qualified and I would still be a newbie. I wouldn't even be able to add
> to my 700hrs as I would have a new log book starting with a big fat zero
> (hrs)
> 
> Rebreather diving is the same. Irrespective of how many oc dives you
> have done you are a novice and novices don't dive to 20m after 2 days
> training.
> 
> The training agencies have got to get to grips with this, and quick. I
> have a feeling rebreathers are here to stay.
> 
> Kevin Pickering   (not Scatsta.Thats a little place in the Shetland
> Isles)
> kevpix@gl*.co*.uk*
> 
> > The perpetrators are low riders enough  to call the divers
> > "incompetent". They died on that machine, following that training and
> > that certification.
> >
> > I am tired of hearing little quips from anonomous yaps who want to be
> > fair to the Reaper. You need to start telling the truth. These machines
> > have another fifty horror stories of failed electronics, they are
> > basiscly unusable by those who bought them, and it is time they all came
> > forward and threw this crowd under the bus .
> >
> > The only difference bewteeen this thing and the other similar fakes and
> > copies of failed nonsense is that they are more widely distributed, and
> > less restricted as to their use. Let the others get out there and there
> > will be a photo finish at the body count line before it is finally
> > stoped by the authorities.
> >
> > Scatsta wrote:
> > >
> > > RLatulip@ao*.co* wrote:
> > >
> > > >snip<
> > > >I do however mind when you attempt to tell me that it is perfect and
> > > > electronics never fail.  I bet that the last two divers to die on a
rebreather
> > > > thought the same thing. >snip<
> > >
> > > Er, have I missed something here? I pressume you are refering to the
> > > Inspiration accidents. The units from the last two fatalities have not
> > > been recovered so we can't say that the electronics failed.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Kevin Pickering
> > > kevpix@gl*.co*.uk*


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