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Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 22:19:06 +0100
From: Scatsta <scatsta@mc*.co*>
To: kirvine@sa*.ne*
CC: RLatulip@ao*.co*, will@tr*.co*, heseltine@ea*.ne*,
     cavers@ca*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com, rebreather@nw*.co*,
     heyydude@pi*.co*
Subject: Re: CONTINUOUS REBREATHER DEATHS was Re: Death was a Bigot
Katherine V. Irvine wrote:
> 
> Scatssa - you need to wake up. The thing does not work, it is a copy of
> a copy of a failed design that has long since been discovered and
> corrected. There have been SIX incidents REPORTED, THREE DEATHS, and you
> want to argue. The machine is a piece , needs to be recalled, and needs
> to be discontinued. The perpetrators need to be jailed, in my opinion.
> 

Sorry old boy, I beg to differ. The deaths have to stop, yes, but as far
as the Inspiration is concerned there has been no indication of
electronics failure so far.

The problem (IMHO) is peoples attitude to diving with rebreathers. A lot
of people consider rebreather diving as a continuation of their diving
career. Done Nitrox done trimix wots next, oh yeah, rebreathers. Others
that it's an easy way to extended bottom times. Agencies who do weekend 
rebreather courses have a lot to answer for.

Rebreather diving is parallel to oc diving. Both going the same way but
totaly seperate skills. A 1000 dive oc diver is back to square one the
moment he straps on a rb, a novice. New skills to learn, new and more
complicated equipment to maintain. This cannot be learnt in a w/end. Its
going to take months.

I fly gliders (ok, sailplanes to you lot across the pond :-) ). I have
getting on for 700hrs and fly in the UK National Championships. You
can't tell me anything about flying - got the picture? OK so what if I
wanted to start power flying. Same thing innit? 'cept with an engine. If
I was to take a w/end course I would soon end up at the bottom of a
smoking hole. It would take many flying hours and more exams to become
qualified and I would still be a newbie. I wouldn't even be able to add
to my 700hrs as I would have a new log book starting with a big fat zero
(hrs)

Rebreather diving is the same. Irrespective of how many oc dives you
have done you are a novice and novices don't dive to 20m after 2 days
training.

The training agencies have got to get to grips with this, and quick. I
have a feeling rebreathers are here to stay.

Kevin Pickering   (not Scatsta.Thats a little place in the Shetland
Isles)
kevpix@gl*.co*.uk*


> The perpetrators are low riders enough  to call the divers
> "incompetent". They died on that machine, following that training and
> that certification.
> 
> I am tired of hearing little quips from anonomous yaps who want to be
> fair to the Reaper. You need to start telling the truth. These machines
> have another fifty horror stories of failed electronics, they are
> basiscly unusable by those who bought them, and it is time they all came
> forward and threw this crowd under the bus .
> 
> The only difference bewteeen this thing and the other similar fakes and
> copies of failed nonsense is that they are more widely distributed, and
> less restricted as to their use. Let the others get out there and there
> will be a photo finish at the body count line before it is finally
> stoped by the authorities.
> 
> Scatsta wrote:
> >
> > RLatulip@ao*.co* wrote:
> >
> > >snip<
> > >I do however mind when you attempt to tell me that it is perfect and
> > > electronics never fail.  I bet that the last two divers to die on a
rebreather
> > > thought the same thing. >snip<
> >
> > Er, have I missed something here? I pressume you are refering to the
> > Inspiration accidents. The units from the last two fatalities have not
> > been recovered so we can't say that the electronics failed.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Kevin Pickering
> > kevpix@gl*.co*.uk*

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