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From: "Kevin Pickering" <kevpix@gl*.co*.uk*>
To: <kirvine@sa*.ne*>, "John Grogan" <john@ro*.co*.uk*>
Cc: "Techdiver" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>, <heyydude@pi*.co*>,
    
Subject: Re: CONTINUOUS REBREATHER DEATHS was Re: Death was a Bigot
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 08:45:28 +0100

-----Original Message-----
From: John Grogan <john@ro*.co*.uk*>
To: kirvine@sa*.ne* <kirvine@sa*.ne*>; scatsta@mc*.co*
<scatsta@mc*.co*>
Cc: rebreather@nw*.co* <rebreather@nw*.co*>;
heyydude@pi*.co* <heyydude@pi*.co*>
Date: 05 August 1998 12:22
Subject: Re: CONTINUOUS REBREATHER DEATHS was Re: Death was a Bigot

I wrote


>>> Sorry old boy, I beg to differ. The deaths have to stop, yes, but as far
>>> as the Inspiration is concerned there has been no indication of
>>> electronics failure so far.
>
>
>Kevin - take Paul's death.  Hypoxia is suspected.  Would the electronics
not
>have responded to falling ppO2 levels?  You knew Kevin, do you think that
at
>80m he would just ignore the alarms given off and continue the dive?  If
the
>answer is no, then electronics failure or malfunction becomes a real
>possibility.  Just because the unit was found to be functioning correctly
>after the death does not mean it functioned correctly on the dive.

There is a lot you don't know about the PH incident. Very soon the facts
will be made public. Not 'Grogan Facts' but _the_ facts.

>
>>> The problem (IMHO) is peoples attitude to diving with rebreathers. A lot
>>> of people consider rebreather diving as a continuation of their diving
>>> career. Done Nitrox done trimix wots next, oh yeah, rebreathers. Others
>>> that it's an easy way to extended bottom times. Agencies who do weekend
>>> rebreather courses have a lot to answer for.
>
>I agree with you on this, but fundamentally, anything electronic is prone
to
>failure or glitches at any time and for no reason. <

True but for a properly trained and disciplined rb diver this should not be
too big a problem.

 >To place your trust in
>the electronics is blind faith that will one day catch up on you.  I've
seen
>the problems with electronics outside of the rebreather field far too often
>to even consider trusting it.

I do not place my trust in my oc equpment, thats why I have redundancy.
Nobody is suggesting the electronics will never fail, just that you should
be properly trained and equiped to deal with that failure.


>
>Regards,
>John.

Regards
Kevin
(Home from Scatsta, back in sunny Sussex.)


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