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Subj: Re: Tragic Technicaldiving
Date: 03/04/98
To: Raimo4252@ao*.co*
bob
i never said being fit was wrong - i was questioning the approach & the levels
that dan was recomending as well as taking the attiitude that if one did not
fit into his mold of being okay then they are out.
you & i know quite a few better that average tech divers that on appearance
would not be "acceptable".
that is where i disagree.
hank
In a message dated 98-03-04 08:03:14 EST, you write:
<< Subj: Re: Tragic Technicaldiving
Date: 98-03-04 08:03:14 EST
From: Raimo4252@ao*.co* (Raimo4252)
To: dlv@ga*.ne*, GarlooEnt@ao*.co*, Wahoojan@ao*.co*, Wahoo2001@ao*.co*,
CAPTZEROOO@ao*.co*
CC: techdiver@aq*.co*, wreckdiver@wreckdiver.com, Ussfriel@ao*.co*
In a message dated 98-03-03 17:42:45 EST, dlv@ga*.ne* writes:
<<
Your wrong about this. It is my concern for lives of these people that has
caused me to take the LARGE amount of time I've spent, to address this
subject-----the fitness issue should not be "fought" by the "physically
challenged" as you call them, instead, they should seek out a top notch
personal trainer and try to attain a higher level of fitness. This will make
them safer and better qualified, physiologically, for tech diving, and make
them healthier in ther general life. And the tech diving, can be the "Goal",
and the "reason", that these people will finally pursue fitness, ultimately
to benefit in their everyday life.
I can't believe you are giving me this "perfect specimen" crap. A tech
diver needs to develop many facets. Fitness alone ( no training, no skills,
wrong mind set, bad gear) would make a dangerously bad diver. This is so
obvious I should not have to comment on it. But I'll say this one more
time. A tech diver, and particularly a tech instructor, needs a high level
of fitness, in the same way a college student needs to be able to read. And
the better he can read, the greater his chances of succeeding in
college-----as opposed to the person who slides through high school, barely
able to read at all, and perhaps reading with lips moving, a testiment to
poor reading skills. But reading skills alone will NOT make the college
student go to the head of the class----without diligent study, reasonably
good IQ, aptitude in the classes taken, good instructors, and desire to
learn as much as possible, reading skills alone will be of little value.
Fitness for a tech diver is very similar. Its "our" reading skill.
Without fitness, you will never be a good tech or cave diver for extreme
depth or duration diving. Your gas exchange rate will be far to great a
liability to you---this including the processing of CO2 from whatever
exertion you become subjected to, and the offgassing of nitrogen and
helium......and even the actual gas consumption itself, since the ultra fit
can learn to lower their heart rates to 45 or 50 bpm while scootering on a
deep dive, and use a very small amount of gas, which also means ingassing
less for the duration at depth. But again, fitness is ONLY the entry level
prereq skill here----the tech diver needs brains, motivation, a good
instructor, the right attitude, and a lot more. And if you were to decree
that all obese tech diver candidates were "fit" for tech diving, as is,
you'd be opening up college to the "illiterate", or worse. >>
I agree here with Dan. Fitness in tech diving is very important, and some
level of fitness should be expected of participants for this type of diving.
No need to be Mark Spitz though, just in shape for the dives being performed.
Safe diving, Raimo
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