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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 10:17:44 -0500
From: rnf@sp*.tb*.co* (Rick Fincher)
To: wreckdiver@wreckdiver.com
Subject: Re: Ban George! (NOT)

> <ray_m@ma*.em*.ne*> writes:
> 
> <<  A lot of us have left techdiver because of the
>  arrogant, obscene BS that YOU post there. If you do the same here, I will
>  leave this list as well. You're full of crap George!
>  
>  Ray >>

Dan DFountain@ao*.co* replied:
 
> {Soapbox Mode On}
> 
> No, George is not full of crap.  He is opinionated, rude, foul-mouthed (or
> foul-keyboarded, at least), homophobic, intolerant, and has a hair trigger,
> but he's not full of crap....
> 
> Is George a pain in the butt?  Sure, he can be.  Should he be banned from the
> list? No.  But please, George, use the best tools available - reasoned
> argument, not flames.  If somebody's statement needs blasting, blast the
> statement, not the poster.
> 
> {Soapbox Mode Off.}

Part of the problem is the medium. The net is like having a conversation in 
which new people are joining in the middle of the discussion all the time 
without benefit of seeing the previous points.

I'm sure George gets tired of having to explain the same points over and over 
every time somebody signs on to the list that has not been exposed to
techniques 
other than what they learned in class or from the local gurus, particularly if 
they are one of the local gurus.

I'm sure part of the short fuse comes from watching dead bodies being pulled
out 
of the springs over the years and having to pull a few out himself, some of
whom 
were friends who would still be alive if they had been taught to "do it right". 

That sort of thing tends to make one intolerant.

As for me, I'm just ignorant not stupid. I'm here to learn and I don't learn 
anything from name calling, so it wastes my time.

> 
> Dan (Not associated with WKPP.  Never dove in a cave.  Have been called a
> stroke (or was it storke?) by George.)

Same here plus a few other choice expletives when I sent him a message saying I 
wouldn't dive with a guy with his temperament. But I can still learn from him, 
and have.

Rick


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