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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 09:14:20 -0400
To: cherf@ci*.co* (Scott Cherf)
From: dlv@ga*.ne* (Dan Volker)
Subject: Re: Rebreathers: Screening out the uncertifiable...
Cc: techdiver@terra.net
>At 10:14 PM 7/31/95, Dan Volker wrote:
>
>>Talking about chambers in this scenario seems unrealistic.
>
>Dan -
>
>You miss the point.  That's the way it's done. If you do it another way,
>fine, but you're blazing new trail.  Seems you might be increasing your
>liability exposure by doing something outside standard practice.  I agree that
>this type of experience can be provided without a chamber, but it's a
>new way of doing things.  So was diving the Lusitainia w/o a chamber ...
>
>Regards,
>Scott.

Scott,
Just to clarify, I did'nt do this, I dive deep alot, but don't teach.  I 
know the instructor, and feel he's an asset to tech diving. 
I do see your point about accepted practices and the current legal environment. 
While I have made one 90 foot dive on the BMD, I have not gone for any 
specific tech training on it. IF I were to decide to do a 290 fsw exposure 
with it (first I'd probably pick a simpler one) I would begin very 
comprehensive training, because this really is nothing like scuba when a 
failure occurs. I would want to simulate every potential failure that could 
occur in the water, and before doing the actual deep dives with it I would 
have wanted to have perfectly handled all simulations in depths closer to a 
hundred feet.
With the BMD,I don't beleive accidental hypoxia would not be possible due to 
a failure of  the system, because you exhaust 25% of each breath, and if it 
stopped replenishing the desired mix, instead of rebreathing 
non-reoxygenated air, you'd drastically cut the volume in the counter lung 
with each breath. 
But this is not to say I would'nt be doing the pool session with skills and 
hypoxic symtoms. I think it would be a good exercise for familiarity, in the 
same way I believe any good diver should have practiced a free ascent from 
at least 90 feet somewhere back early in their scuba training. Its not 
because I would be likely to free ascend in an out of air emergency, as I 
would have a pony or doubles in most cases. Its a knowledge and performance 
kind of thing. And I think familiarity and  learned reflexes are important 
to tech diving. The student in question was not interested in learning gas 
physics, or understanding the seriousness of using special mixtures and what 
their effect on his body would be. I think he learned a lesson from this, 
and having experienced difficulty in swimming, I think he realized his 
inability to learn the physics was not just something he could hide (having 
his buddy answer test questions for him), and that his lack of understanding 
may in fact effect his life. I think he decided the whole rebreather concept 
was too serious for him, and I think he was right. If you can't learn the 
math or the physical skills, you need to stick with the basic open water 
recreational diving, where floundering and lack of knowledge are the norm.
Regards,
Dan 
Dan Volker
407-683-3592

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