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I'll go along with the suggestions on bookwork and rescue of a convulsing
diver.  If the shop wants to offer a discounted first Nitrox dive, that is
fine.  A Nitrox checkout dive is meaningless.

On the other question, I'll have to say no to incorporating EAN training
into OW as a matter of course.  Let the diver get his underwater skills
going before introducing more things that can kill him.  That's not to say
the bookwork for Nitrox can't start on the boatride in from the final OW
cert dive, but most of the people I have seen aren't ready for more bottom
time at that point anyway.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary Hagland" <haglandg@to*.co*>
To: "Mickey Smith" <mickeys7@be*.ne*>; <davidesmith@al*.wp*.ed*>;
<techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 1:39 AM
Subject: Re: Why/Why Not TDI?


> Hey Guys,
> Think about the worst thing that can happen to a Nitrox diver, which isn't
> a problem for someone breathing air.  How about training them in how to
> rescue a convulsing diver?  That's something normally not accomplished
> successfully, but odds improve with the proper technique.
> Gary
>
> At 09:07 PM 7/16/03 -0400, Mickey Smith wrote:
> > > I have a couple of discussion prompting questions.
> > >
> > > Who (and why) out there believes that an actual dive
> > > is an important part of a recreational Nitrox course?
> >
> >I believe you should have to show multiple examples of choosing best gas
for
> >depth and MOD of given gas.  You should also demonstrate an IQ higher
than a
> >tennis shoe when it comes to analyzing your gas-- to define that--they
are
> >several different types of analyzers out there-so the course should
include
> >an overview of some of the differences.
> >
> >If you are dying to give more of your hard earned cash to the dive shop
> >monkeys and want to pay for a checkout dive--more power to you.  You are
not
> >going to change the way you breathe just because it is nitrox are ya?
This
> >is beyond pale.
> >
> >I expect to see one arguement in here about watching an individual's
> >buoyancy--well if that is an issue and some moron wants to bounce around
and
> >off himself--more power to him--more room on the boat for me.
> >
> >You should have that silly shit squared away before Nitrox class.
> >
> >Mick


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