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Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 17:22:58 -0400
To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
From: Capt JT <captjt@mi*.co*>
Subject: Re:O2 exposure
Randy,funny how you weenies can't take what you dish out, then you post for 
help hoping an old smokie like Joe and a known liar like G will help you 
out. That makes no difference to me. G can post all long detailed stuff 
that is not really needed, to impress you novice divers.

The truth is I have over 1500 logged dives to depths(no students I don't 
teach, I only do real dives) and CNS clock numbers that would make most of 
you guys shit in your DS and bolt for the surface. I have never toxed and 
only felt what COULD have been the symptoms of an oxtox once.

Also for WIW I along with a few others will be testing some decompression 
gases, no I did not come up with them, Tom Sawicki did, I don't dream up 
the stuff, I'm just the guy who will do it. Remember him George, he is the 
guy who is pounding you in private right now as he does not care to post to 
this list, it is too much of a waste of his time. He was not happy with 
your scooter and the fact that you lied on Quest about the "idiosyncratic" 
species and the 28 you found in Mexico. That is the area of his study and 
every creditable find of these things is reported to him and his co worker 
as they are the experts for them. Care to post his private emails to the 
list? Maybe this will ring a bell....

And I love the "idiosyncratic" species. You might as well have said 
hooogalabooogala species, it would have meant as much. Actually, maybe you 
didn't lie, your just too ignorant to know what you found. It is just 
amazing how you have been able to bully people into pulling the wool over 
their own eyes about you.

Randy you are not a wreck diver with any status or notable dives, but you 
are wrong. Many divers have toxed doing the 200ft weenie dives. Often the 
cause is the start of the dive, weenies will often use a travel mix when it 
is not needed because they have fear of a mix that is close to being 
hypoxic or use it in their plan to reduce deco time (so they say). Then 
they sometimes dive a hot mix like air because they think they are good on 
it. All these things start the CNS clock rolling and then they try to 
control it with deco mixes like 80/20. This is because they have a fear of 
02 exposure and do not know how to manage the clock when it goes past or 
gets close 100%.

100% on your CNS clock does not mean anything if you take breaks to reduce 
the exposure . Which is how you really manage the clock.Oxygen poisoning is 
determined by interactions between the oxygen dose and the relative 
susceptibilities of the exposed tissue. You must take into account PO2 and 
duration of the exposure. Each person can have different levels of exposure 
they can handle and some will say they have the correct answers on this 
subject, but the only answer they have is for themselves or the test 
subject when pushing the limits.

I could quote numerous lines from books, post, and many teachings. This 
would not make you any better at understanding it or make you a better 
diver. All things are debatable and each expert will have their own opinion 
on this huge subject.

My personal thought is NEW techdivers should only spend 10 mins on 02 at a 
time and no one should never spend more than 20 minutes at a time on it. 
Only those who want to push the limits and brag how big their dick is would 
do that or if they are in a controlled environment.There are other things 
to take into consideration, damage to the lungs and the oxygen window. 
Breaks should be taken with your back gas, unless you are doing some 
serious bottom times or deep dives ect........ you should never see a deco 
that requires more than 30-40 mins on 02 and can be broken up very easy 
with back gas. If you were doing more than this then you would not have to 
ask any questions about 02 exposure.

I am not an expert on it or claim to be. I just do the dives and survive 
them, which is my goal for me and those around me. Only Internet divers 
need so much basic information..............which brings us to you and the 
rest of this list.

BTW I know I'm an ass, everyone around me knows I'm an ass. They also know 
I'm right and tell the truth.






At 08:48 PM 9/4/02 -0300, The McLeods wrote:
>    Listen JT,Maybe I am an inexperienced weenie,maybe I'm not,but your an
>ass.
>    I dive regularly to over 200 ft with BT's around 25 mins,with the
>required deco,run times are in the 60 to 70 min range.On these dives O2
>exposure is not a risk,I know that,I was asking about 3 and 4 hour cave
>dives.Since I'm planning some deeper dives this year,and the programs
>showing O2 exposure at it's limit,do you not think it's wise to find out how
>they control this on the real long dives.
>    What do you mean the same way everyone else does it??I'm a wreck
>diver,not a cave diver,and they don't teach this stuff at the agencies,so
>I'm forced to ask asses like you.You know JT,up here in Canada,we think your
>a dick head too.
>
>Randy
>
>
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