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To: chris@de*.de*.co*.uk*
Subject: Re: Education beyond certification?
From: cherf@ci*.co* (Scott Cherf)
Cc: techdiver@opal.com
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 1995 14:27:04 -0700
At 10:04 AM 4/15/95, Chris Hellas wrote:

[stuff deleted for brevity]

>What we do not have is education beyond initial certification. Divers pass
>the theory, demonstrate certain in water skills & then are let loose waving
>a C card. I know lots of instructors who care enough to advise students on
>the way foreward and ensure that they have a 'feel' for a particular mindset
>that will hopefully mean the student will progress in a logical manner.
>I suppose we are back to sounding elitist, but I still think that Trimix
>is not for mass market consumption.

Can't you say all of the same things about a PADI OW certification?  I don't
see how this specifically relates to technical diving, or the gas you breath.
There are lots of recreational air divers in Cancun and Cozumel that shouldn't
be diving either ;).  I think you're describing a training problem that can
occur in any type of diving.

I'm not familiar with the UK requirements, but over here a trimix cert.
is a pretty rigourous program.  My instructor lists the following:

(Note, I've omitted physiological and legal requirements)

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Basic reqs for level 1 deep air, 160' w/O2 decom. 5 days.
(pre-req for levels 2 and 3):

 Minimum of 100 logged dives, with 20 between 100 and 130 fsw.
 EANx user certification with 10 logged EANx dives.

Level 2 deep air, 190' w/O2 decom. 4 days

 Minimum 125 logged dives, with 10 between 130 and 160 fsw.
 EANx user and level 1 deep air cert with 10 dives in each area.

Level 3 trimix, 190'+ (250' training) w/EANx & O2 decom. 5 days

 Minimum 175 logged dives, with 10 between 160 and 190 fsw.
 EANx user, Level 1 and Level 2 cert with 10 dives in each area.

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Most non professional divers would take about a year to get through
these three courses and would have at least 2 years practical diving before
they started.  On top of that it'll cost them about $2500.00 + C card
purchases.  Plus they need to own all of their own equipment before they
take the level 3 course (add another $5000.00 to $10,000.00).  I think
it's also interesting to note that the courses require you to *use*
your previous certification before you can go on to the next level.
You can't take the courses back to back in 15 days.

Given the significant cost/training barriers, even if trimix were to
become 'fashionable' I can't see many people getting certified on a
lark.  I was told that there are only about 700 IANTD certified trimix
divers worldwide.  That doesn't seem like enough to be called a
'fashion'.

Maybe you need to stiffen up your training requirements?

Scott.

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