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Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 10:01:32 -0400
Subject: Re: VBTech vs. Nova Tech
Cc: "techdiver@aquanaut.com" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
To: Christian Gerzner <christiang@in*.co*.au*>
From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>
I suppose that if you are doing a dive where a chase boat is probably 
not going to be needed, then you the diveboat won't deploy the 
chaseboat. On the ML the zodiac is on the upper deck with a small boom 
winch to deploy/sto the unit. It is rarely used, and you now what that 
means as far at the motor in concerned. When JT does a serious dive he 
makes sure the chase boat is gassed up and running before we leave the 
dock. Then at the site it is deployed into the water.

If your argument is that the chase boat should be deployed on each and 
every dive, I agree it would be a better thing. The problem is 
convincing the diver operator to do that on dives you don' t go out on. 
But if you take it upon yourself to demand that the chase is up and 
running and deployed or you won't go out on the dive then either it will 
be or you won't dive. It's your ass and your decision.

    Jim

On Friday, July 26, 2002, at 06:21 AM, Christian Gerzner wrote:

> Jim Cobb wrote:
>>
>> It truly pains me to see this sort of infighting going on between
>> friends.
>
> I agree.
>
>> If you felt that there was a chance things were going to go south on a,
>> for chirsts sake, 70' vis Eureka weenie dive, then you should have had
>> the goddamn zodiac in the water, gassed up and running before anybody
>> even jumps in the water.
>
> There are, we all know that who have read this and associated threads,
> a lot of things that could, should, might have been done however the
> above statement  bears comment.
>
>> (For those who don't know it's a real bitch to launch the zodiac on 
>> the ML,
>>  and even then it is doubtful the motor will start).
>
> Really? REALLY?
>
> Jim, I don't know what laws apply in your neck of the woods but that,
> to me, is plain stupid, as in criminally stupid. It's about as useful
> as not having the bloody thing along at all and it smacks of blatant
> incompetence on the part of the crew/management, EVEN IF it is NOT an
> item required by law.
>
> 1) You have a safety boat and it works, at best, sometimes?
>
> 2) It's difficult to launch?
>
> Bluddy hell!!! Are the first time passenger/divers boarding (in this
> example) the ML going to ask questions along these lines? Is this,
> should this be, part of "their ass" strategy? Where does it all stop?
> Should they now inspect the engine room? Ask the Captain for his papers?
>
> Or are they entitled to assume that the boat, as well as the crew, is
> competent? I know, I know, competence is in the eyes of the beholder
> and I don't even know whether commercial dive boats in your neck of
> the woods need to be licensed (here in Oz, they certainly do although
> whether that, in itself, is necessarily a good thing is yet another 
> question).
>
> This boat, to my eyes, appears incompetent, according to what you have
> said above.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Christian

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