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--part1_196.a62e4bd.2a71ee71_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > My philosophy is that your it is *your ass* and nobody elses. Nobody > else gives a shit about *your ass* because they are too worried about > *their ass*. And if you want to bring *your ass* out of the water each > and every time it is up to *your ass* to cover all bases or decide > whether or not to toss the dice. > It definitely is your ass, and you should do everything possible to secure your ass. When things go wrong however, it's nice to be involved with a proffessional operation that cares if you live or die, and do whatever possible to ensure you live. > It must be nice in the commercial world where you can hop on any work > boat and know, without even checking, that the captain has the eyes of > an eagle, his crew is perfect, the chase boat will deploy and start with > the touch of a button. Yeah, right. > My rescue boat is launched at least weekly in a drill, and yes, it starts at the touch of a button every time. > But *my ass* does not give a shit about the son of a bitch who did not > save *my ass* is now in a CG hearing when *my ass* is attached to a > cold, dead corpse. Won't mean a fucking thing to me. > You aren't getting it are you? The guy who is striving to avoid the CG hearing, is the same guy who CARES if YOU live or die and maintains dilligence to assure you don't die drifting across the ocean. BTW, since it IS your ass, and you don't give a shit whether someone is watching out for you or not, you do carry your own 406 EPIRB with you on dives right? I mean, iff you get blown off the wreck in a Gulf Stream current with a couple hours of deco to do and no one is looking out for your liftbag, you'll be lost at sea without one. > From what I can tell, most people who dive roll the dice, over and over > and over. You would not believe what divers dive off of. Basically > anything that can get you to the dive site and that will still be > floating when you come up from deco pretty much covers the > qualifications. Anything after that is a bonus. Wow, hate to say it, but you're morons then. > > Fuck the captain. All dive boat captains are is a bunch of fucking bus > drivers, they've all said that over and over on these lists. It's been > proven out in the courts. You need to have organic support in your dive > team or you are a fool or a gambler. It is up to *your ass* to check the > chase boat, make sure it's deployed and will start when you need it. It > is up to *your ass* to have someone you know and trust take the head > counts, mark the entry time, know what to do in an emergency (other than > run around screaming hysterically) and coordinate the surface support. > Or it is up to *your ass* to roll the dice. You may win, you may loose. You all need to demand better service, vote with your wallets. If I walked on a boat run the way y'all accept, I'd walk back off, I don't need to dive that bad that I'd roll dice with odds up ability to lose. Y'all pay a bunch of money for these dives, you aren't being paid to do them (actually if you were being paid, the crappy conditions which you take for granted, would not be tolerated), you should insist on only the top quality service, and equipment on par with your own personal equipment. > > Rule book thumpers like you are hilarious. USCG rules In the context of > dive boats, I'm rolling on the floor. Let's deal with the real world, > shall we? > > Jim The rules as you put them, are all written in blood as it's said. An operation that can't abide by those rules has no right to be operating, and I wouldn't step foot on it, who the hell knows what else is going wrong. They don't make rules without people dying over an issue. Some of us run a 30' boat as proffessionaly as a 300' boat, my standards of safety don't change. That you'll accept less than a completely proffessional operation boggles my mind. The bus ride alone holds hazards. > > --part1_196.a62e4bd.2a71ee71_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2><BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">My philosophy is that your it is *your ass* and nobody elses. Nobody <BR> else gives a shit about *your ass* because they are too worried about <BR> *their ass*. And if you want to bring *your ass* out of the water each <BR> and every time it is up to *your ass* to cover all bases or decide <BR> whether or not to toss the dice.<BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">It definitely is your ass, and you should do everything possible to secure your ass. When things go wrong however, it's nice to be involved with a proffessional operation that cares if you live or die, and do whatever possible to ensure you live.</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">It must be nice in the commercial world where you can hop on any work <BR> boat and know, without even checking, that the captain has the eyes of <BR> an eagle, his crew is perfect, the chase boat will deploy and start with <BR> the touch of a button. Yeah, right.<BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">My rescue boat</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"> is launched at least weekly in a drill, and yes, it starts at the touch of a button every time.<BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">But *my ass* does not give a shit about the son of a bitch who did not <BR> save *my ass* is now in a CG hearing when *my ass* is attached to a <BR> cold, dead corpse. Won't mean a fucking thing to me.<BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">You aren't getting it are you? The guy who is striving to avoid the CG hearing, is the same guy who CARES if YOU live or die and maintains dilligence to assure you don't die drifting across the ocean. BTW, since it IS your ass, and you don't give a shit whether someone is watching out for you or not, you do carry your own 406 EPIRB with you on dives right? I mean, iff you get blown off the wreck in a Gulf Stream current with a couple hours of deco to do and no one is looking out for your liftbag, you'll be lost at sea without one.</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">From what I can tell, most people who dive roll the dice, over and over <BR> and over. You would not believe what divers dive off of. Basically <BR> anything that can get you to the dive site and that will still be <BR> floating when you come up from deco pretty much covers the <BR> qualifications. Anything after that is a bonus.</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Wow, hate to say it, but you're morons then.</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><BR> Fuck the captain. All dive boat captains are is a bunch of fucking bus <BR> drivers, they've all said that over and over on these lists. It's been <BR> proven out in the courts. You need to have organic support in your dive <BR> team or you are a fool or a gambler. It is up to *your ass* to check the <BR> chase boat, make sure it's deployed and will start when you need it. It <BR> is up to *your ass* to have someone you know and trust take the head <BR> counts, mark the entry time, know what to do in an emergency (other than <BR> run around screaming hysterically) and coordinate the surface support. <BR> Or it is up to *your ass* to roll the dice. You may win, you may loose.</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">You all need to demand better service, vote with your wallets. If I walked on a boat run the way y'all accept, I'd walk back off, I don't need to dive that bad that I'd roll dice with odds up ability to lose. Y'all pay a bunch of money for these dives, you aren't being paid to do them (actually if you were being paid, the crappy conditions which you take for granted, would not be tolerated), you should insist on only the top quality service, and equipment on par with your own personal equipment.</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><BR> Rule book thumpers like you are hilarious. USCG rules In the context of <BR> dive boats, I'm rolling on the floor. Let's deal with the real world, <BR> shall we?<BR> <BR> Jim</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">The rules as you put them, are all written in blood as it's said. An operation that can't abide by those rules has no right to be operating, and I wouldn't step foot on it, who the hell knows what else is going wrong. They don't make rules without people dying over an issue. Some of us run a 30' boat as proffessionaly as a 300' boat, my standards of safety don't change. That you'll accept less than a completely proffessional operation boggles my mind. The bus ride alone holds hazards.</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_196.a62e4bd.2a71ee71_boundary-- -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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