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HLAviation, (Can I call you HL? How about AvGas? How about a real name?)=20=
I guess I would have to ask you, what kind of boats you dive off of=20
where you can trust your life to the captain without question?
My philosophy is that your it is *your ass* and nobody elses. Nobody=20
else gives a shit about *your ass* because they are too worried about=20
*their ass*. And if you want to bring *your ass* out of the water each=20=
and every time it is up to *your ass* to cover all bases or decide=20
whether or not to toss the dice.
It must be nice in the commercial world where you can hop on any work=20=
boat and know, without even checking, that the captain has the eyes of=20=
an eagle, his crew is perfect, the chase boat will deploy and start with=20=
the touch of a button. Yeah, right.
But *my ass* does not give a shit about the son of a bitch who did not=20=
save *my ass* is now in a CG hearing when *my ass* is attached to a=20
cold, dead corpse. Won't mean a fucking thing to me.
=46rom what I can tell, most people who dive roll the dice, over and =
over=20
and over. You would not believe what divers dive off of. Basically=20
anything that can get you to the dive site and that will still be=20
floating when you come up from deco pretty much covers the=20
qualifications. Anything after that is a bonus.
Fuck the captain. All dive boat captains are is a bunch of fucking bus=20=
drivers, they've all said that over and over on these lists. It's been=20=
proven out in the courts. You need to have organic support in your dive=20=
team or you are a fool or a gambler. It is up to *your ass* to check the=20=
chase boat, make sure it's deployed and will start when you need it. It=20=
is up to *your ass* to have someone you know and trust take the head=20
counts, mark the entry time, know what to do in an emergency (other than=20=
run around screaming hysterically) and coordinate the surface support.=20=
Or it is up to *your ass* to roll the dice. You may win, you may loose.
Rule book thumpers like you are hilarious. USCG rules In the context of=20=
dive boats, I'm rolling on the floor. Let's deal with the real world,=20=
shall we?
Jim
On Thursday, July 25, 2002, at 06:24 PM, HLAviation@ao*.co* wrote:
> I just have to ask, y'all get on boats with vital emergency equipment=20=
> in this condition?=A0 That boat is supposed to be one man deployable =
and=20
> ready to rock at a moments notice. I realize that you may not realize=20=
> this, but from what I keep hearing just about how these boats are =
being=20
> run, I'm less than impressed.=A0 You say it's not the captains job to=20=
> watch for lift bags, I take issue with that, It's the Masters=20
> responsability to know everything going on with concern to operations=20=
> conducted off his/her vessel, and there should be lookouts posted at=20=
> all times regardless of people in the water or not due to traffic=20
> issues ( I often have to fire my 20mm flare gun at people who may=20
> violate my safety zone). If you're maintaining a proper lookout, you=20=
> will see lift bags, and as I said before you may not consider the=20
> Master responsible, but at a CG hearing, they will, and believe me, if=20=
> they lose someone, there will be a CG hearing, and the first question=20=
> they will ask is "Who was posted as the lookout and what did they =
see?"
>
>
> In a message dated 7/25/2002 2:47:57 PM Central Daylight Time,=20
> cobber@ci*.co* writes:
>
>
> If you felt that there was a chance things were going to go south on =
a,
> for chirsts sake, 70' vis Eureka weenie dive, then you should have had
> the goddamn zodiac in the water, gassed up and running before anybody
> even jumps in the water. (For those who don't know it's a real bitch =
to
> launch the zodiac on the ML, and even then it is doubtful the motor =
wil
> start). There
>
>
>
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HLAviation, (Can I call you HL? How about AvGas? How about a real
name?) I guess I would have to ask you, what kind of boats you dive
off of where you can trust your life to the captain without question?
My philosophy is that your it is *your ass* and nobody elses. Nobody
else gives a shit about *your ass* because they are too worried about
*their ass*. And if you want to bring *your ass* out of the water
each and every time it is up to *your ass* to cover all bases or
decide whether or not to toss the dice.
It must be nice in the commercial world where you can hop on any work
boat and know, without even checking, that the captain has the eyes of
an eagle, his crew is perfect, the chase boat will deploy and start
with the touch of a button. Yeah, right.
But *my ass* does not give a shit about the son of a bitch who did not
save *my ass* is now in a CG hearing when *my ass* is attached to a
cold, dead corpse. Won't mean a fucking thing to me.
=46rom what I can tell, most people who dive roll the dice, over and
over and over. You would not believe what divers dive off of.
Basically anything that can get you to the dive site and that will
still be floating when you come up from deco pretty much covers the
qualifications. Anything after that is a bonus.
Fuck the captain. All dive boat captains are is a bunch of fucking bus
drivers, they've all said that over and over on these lists. It's been
proven out in the courts. You need to have organic support in your
dive team or you are a fool or a gambler. It is up to *your ass* to
check the chase boat, make sure it's deployed and will start when you
need it. It is up to *your ass* to have someone you know and trust
take the head counts, mark the entry time, know what to do in an
emergency (other than run around screaming hysterically) and
coordinate the surface support. Or it is up to *your ass* to roll the
dice. You may win, you may loose.
Rule book thumpers like you are hilarious. USCG rules In the context
of dive boats, I'm rolling on the floor. Let's deal with the real
world, shall we?
Jim
On Thursday, July 25, 2002, at 06:24 PM, HLAviation@ao*.co* wrote:
<excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>I just have to
ask,
y'all get on boats with vital emergency equipment in this condition?=A0
That boat is supposed to be one man deployable and ready to rock at a
moments notice. I realize that you may not realize this, but from what
I keep hearing just about how these boats are being run, I'm less than
impressed.=A0 You say it's not the captains job to watch for lift bags,
I take issue with that, It's the Masters responsability to know
everything going on with concern to operations conducted off his/her
vessel, and there should be lookouts posted at all times regardless of
people in the water or not due to traffic issues ( I often have to
fire my 20mm flare gun at people who may violate my safety zone). If
you're maintaining a proper lookout, you will see lift bags, and as I
said before you may not consider the Master responsible, but at a CG
hearing, they will, and believe me, if they lose someone, there will
be a CG hearing, and the first question they will ask is "Who was
posted as the lookout and what did they see?"
In a message dated 7/25/2002 2:47:57 PM Central Daylight Time,
cobber@ci*.co* writes:
</smaller></fontfamily>If you felt that there was a chance things were
going to go south on a,
for chirsts sake, 70' vis Eureka weenie dive, then you should have had
the goddamn zodiac in the water, gassed up and running before anybody
even jumps in the water. (For those who don't know it's a real bitch to
launch the zodiac on the ML, and even then it is doubtful the motor wil
start). There
</excerpt>=
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