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Date: Wed, 08 May 2002 19:57:32 -0400
To: scuba@md*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com
From: Capt JT <captjt@mi*.co*>
Subject: Re: 3 man teams - not for training
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You're a perfect example of someone who needs to take the class, ride your 
soap box to the nearest one available......



At 08:39 AM 5/8/02 -0400, Ted Green wrote:
>From:                   Capt JT <captjt@mi*.co*>
>
> > During one drill he asked us if we would do 3 man teams, I have
> > experienced and see felled 3 man dive teams and said I did not want to do
> > that. Everything he was about to explain about 3 man teams I already knew,
> > we would be doing some of our in water skills with 3 man teams and we
> > would fail....... 3 man teams are the hardest to dive, only those that
> > practice this can use it to its fullest potential, a safer dive, those
> > that just do it will always put one diver at risk.
>
>While I'm on my soap box,
>      Three man buddy teams have no place in diving instruction.
>
>When two people dive together, they each divide their time between what 
>they are doing and what their buddy is doing.
>
>When two people are diving in a class situation with an instructor, the 
>students each divide their time between what they are doing, what their 
>buddy is doing, what the instructor is doing, and hopefully trying to 
>learn something. THIS IS A THREE MAN TEAM!
>
>When three people are diving in a class situation with an instructor, each 
>students divides their time between what they are doing, what buddy #1 is 
>doing, what buddy #2 is doing, what the instructor is doing, and hopefully 
>trying to learn something. THIS IS A FOUR MAN TEAM! How much do you think 
>the student is really going to learn in this situation?
>
>As an instructor I have an obligation to be a backup to each of my 
>students.....to save them in a life threatening situation. Each time I ad 
>another student to the group it reduces proportionally the amount of time 
>I have to keep track of and teach each student.
>
>In the pool I can see 4 to 6 students ( in two or three teams of two 
>buddies each ) to one instructor. In open water it's two buddies to one 
>instructor......especially in the overhead environment or decompression.
>
>
>
>Ted Green 
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dive 
>Charter Boat: O.C. Diver                    Sunset Marina in Ocean City, 
>Maryland                    <http://www.ocdiver.com>http://www.ocdiver.com 
 >                   410.742.1992  800.637.2102                    Fax 
>10.749.9410 "Diving the Atlantic coast from Cape May NJ to Cape Charles 
>VA." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -- 
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You're a perfect example of someone who needs to take the class, ride
your soap box to the nearest one available......<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
At 08:39 AM 5/8/02 -0400, Ted Green wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=3Dcite cite>From:       =
   
<x-tab>        </x-tab>Capt JT
<captjt@mi*.co*> <br>
<br>
> During one drill he asked us if we would do 3 man teams, I have
<br>
> experienced and see felled 3 man dive teams and said I did not want
to do <br>
> that. Everything he was about to explain about 3 man teams I already
knew, <br>
> we would be doing some of our in water skills with 3 man teams and
we <br>
> would fail....... 3 man teams are the hardest to dive, only those
that <br>
> practice this can use it to its fullest potential, a safer dive,
those <br>
> that just do it will always put one diver at risk. <br>
<br>
While I'm on my soap box, <br>
     Three man buddy teams have no place in diving
instruction. <br>
<br>
When two people dive together, they each divide their time between what
they are doing and what their buddy is doing. <br>
<br>
When two people are diving in a class situation with an instructor, the
students each divide their time between what they are doing, what their
buddy is doing, what the instructor is doing, and hopefully trying to
learn something. <b>THIS IS A THREE MAN TEAM!</b> <br>
<br>
When three people are diving in a class situation with an instructor,
each students divides their time between what they are doing, what buddy
#1 is doing, what buddy #2 is doing, what the instructor is doing, and
hopefully trying to learn something. <b>THIS IS A FOUR MAN TEAM! </b>How
much do you think the student is really going to learn in this situation?
<br>
<br>
As an instructor I have an obligation to be a backup to each of my
students.....to save them in a life threatening situation. Each time I ad
another student to the group it reduces proportionally the amount of time
I have to keep track of and teach each student. <br>
<br>
In the pool I can see 4 to 6 students ( in two or three teams of two
buddies each ) to one instructor. In open water it's two buddies to one
instructor......especially in the overhead environment or decompression.
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<pre>Ted Green
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dive
Charter Boat: O.C.
Diver            =
;       
Sunset Marina in Ocean City,
Maryland           &n=
bsp;       
<a
href=3D"http://www.ocdiver.com">http://www.ocdiver.com</a>  &nb=
sp;            &=
nbsp;   
410.742.1992 
800.637.2102          &nbs=
p;        
Fax 410.749.9410 "Diving the Atlantic coast from Cape May NJ to Cape
Charles VA."
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