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To: "Ted Green" <scuba@md*.co*>
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: 3 man teams - not for training
From: "Nick Radov" <NRadov@ax*.co*>
Date: Wed, 8 May 2002 12:05:30 -0700
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Ted,

When Andrew Georgitsis has us do training dives with 3 person teams they 
really are 3 person teams. In other words, the instructor is not part of 
the team and is just there to throw problems at you and evaluate your 
performance. And of course he is there to rescue you if anything goes 
seriously wrong.

As a former (and probably future) student of Andrew's I can see a couple 
reasons why this is a good idea. First of all, many of us come to the 
classes with horrendous buddy skills. Creating a more complex situation 
makes this problem more obvious. When you see a team of 3 drop down for 
the first dive of a class and then proceed to goober around, lose each 
other, and fail to communicate it really drives home a point. The point is 
that you need to have a plan, and you need to work together as a team. 
Knowing you have a problem is half the battle.

Second, In real dives it is often easier and safer to run a 3 person team, 
at least for those of us without much experience. If you have only a 2 
person team, and one is navigating and running a reel while the other is 
taking pictures, then it can be difficult for them to coordinate their 
activities. Having a third diver along adds an extra set of hands and 
eyes, and makes it easier to keep the team together and solve problems. So 
if we are going to dive that way in the real world, why not train the same 
way?

I suppose in theory it would be better if we could do all the training 
with much smaller classes and more gradual introduction of new skills. But 
there are only so many qualified instructors to go around, and most 
students are not willing to pay for that level of individualized 
attention. We can't all be lucky enough to have a mentor like Parker 
Turner available.

If you ever have a chance I would highly recommend signing up for one of 
Andrew's classes and get the real explanation straight from the horse's 
mouth. Even if you are already highly skilled and experienced you will 
learn something useful. This is a serious suggestion, I'm not trying to be 
patronizing.

-Nick
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Ted,</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">When Andrew Georgitsis has us do
training dives with 3 person teams they really are 3 person teams. In other
words, the instructor is not part of the team and is just there to throw
problems at you and evaluate your performance. And of course he is there to
rescue you if anything goes seriously wrong.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">As a former (and probably future)
student of Andrew's I can see a couple reasons why this is a good idea. First
of all, many of us come to the classes with horrendous buddy skills. Creating a
more complex situation makes this problem more obvious. When you see a team of
3 drop down for the first dive of a class and then proceed to goober around,
lose each other, and fail to communicate it really drives home a point. The
point is that you need to have a plan, and you need to work together as a team.
Knowing you have a problem is half the battle.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Second, In real dives it is often
easier and safer to run a 3 person team, at least for those of us without much
experience. If you have only a 2 person team, and one is navigating and running
a reel while the other is taking pictures, then it can be difficult for them to
coordinate their activities. Having a third diver along adds an extra set of
hands and eyes, and makes it easier to keep the team together and solve
problems. So if we are going to dive that way in the real world, why not train
the same way?</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I suppose in theory it would be better
if we could do all the training with much smaller classes and more gradual
introduction of new skills. But there are only so many qualified instructors to
go around, and most students are not willing to pay for that level of
individualized attention. We can't all be lucky enough to have a mentor like
Parker Turner available.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">If you ever have a chance I would
highly recommend signing up for one of Andrew's classes and get the real
explanation straight from the horse's mouth. Even if you are already highly
skilled and experienced you will learn something useful. This is a serious
suggestion, I'm not trying to be patronizing.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">-Nick</font>
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