This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0116_01C1F681.2D481F80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ted Green=20 To: techdiver@aquanaut.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 5:39 AM Subject: 3 man teams - not for training From: Capt JT <captjt@mi*.co*> While I'm on my soap box, Three man buddy teams have no place in diving instruction. Why the hell not??? Would you rather they practice as 2 man teams, = never learn proper 3 man team protocols, positioning in the water and = positioning in an emergency sitiuation, and then when they dive in the = real worl and a clusteruck happens in a 3 man team they aren't skilled = or practiced enough to know how to react??? Perhaps you should step off the soap box and think through what you = say before you spout it.. =20 When two people dive together, they each divide their time between = what they are doing and what their buddy is doing. When two people are diving in a class situation with an instructor, = the students each divide their time between what they are doing, what = their buddy is doing, what the instructor is doing, and hopefully trying = to learn something. THIS IS A THREE MAN TEAM! Maybe in a bullshit class this is what they do.. When three people are diving in a class situation with an instructor, = each students divides their time between what they are doing, what buddy = #1 is doing, what buddy #2 is doing, what the instructor is doing, and = hopefully trying to learn something. THIS IS A FOUR MAN TEAM! How much = do you think the student is really going to learn in this situation?=20 The instructor isn't part of the team during training so what are you = talking about??? In the pool I can see 4 to 6 students ( in two or three teams of two = buddies each ) to one instructor. In open water it's two buddies to one = instructor......especially in the overhead environment or decompression. Ted, then perhaps you need to revist your protocols and spend some = time doing the drills in shalow water where you can simulate failure and = not worry about you or your student being in decompression should a = problem happen.. Later Ted Green ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dive Charter Boat: O.C. Diver Sunset Marina in Ocean City, Maryland http://www.ocdiver.com 410.742.1992 800.637.2102 Fax 410.749.9410 "Diving the Atlantic coast from Cape May NJ to Cape Charles VA." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. ------=_NextPart_000_0116_01C1F681.2D481F80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4134.600" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Dscuba@md*.co* href=3D"mailto:scuba@md*.co*">Ted = Green</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=3Dtechdiver@aquanaut.com=20 href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com">techdiver@aquanaut.com</A> = </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 08, 2002 = 5:39=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> 3 man teams - not for=20 training</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>From: Capt JT <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:captjt@mi*.co*">captjt@mindspring.com</A>><B><BR= ><BR></B>While=20 I'm on my soap box,<BR>Three man buddy teams have no place in diving=20 instruction.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Why the hell not??? Would you rather they practice as 2 man = teams,=20 never learn proper 3 man team protocols, positioning in the water = and=20 positioning in an emergency sitiuation, and then when they dive in = the =20 real worl and a clusteruck happens in a 3 man team they aren't skilled = or=20 practiced enough to know how to react???</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Perhaps you should step off the soap box and think through what = you say=20 before you spout it..</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <BR><BR>When two people dive together, they each divide = their time=20 between what they are doing and what their buddy is doing.<BR><BR>When = two=20 people are diving in a class situation with an instructor, the = students each=20 divide their time between what they are doing, what their buddy is = doing, what=20 the instructor is doing, and hopefully trying to learn something. = <B>THIS IS A=20 THREE MAN TEAM!</B></DIV><STRONG></STRONG></BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><STRONG>Maybe=20 in a bullshit class this is what they do..</STRONG> <DIV><BR><BR>When three people are diving in a class situation with an = instructor, each students divides their time between what they are = doing, what=20 buddy #1 is doing, what buddy #2 is doing, what the instructor is = doing, and=20 hopefully trying to learn something. <B>THIS IS A FOUR MAN TEAM! = </B>How much=20 do you think the student is really going to learn in this situation? = </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The instructor isn't part of the team = during=20 training so what are you talking about???</FONT></DIV><FONT = face=3DArial=20 size=3D2></FONT> <DIV><BR><BR><BR>In the pool I can see 4 to 6 students ( in two or = three teams=20 of two buddies each ) to one instructor. In open water it's two = buddies to one=20 instructor......especially in the overhead environment or=20 decompression.<BR></DIV><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ted, then perhaps you need to revist = your=20 protocols and spend some time doing the drills in shalow water where = you can=20 simulate failure and not worry about you or your student being in=20 decompression should a problem happen..</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Later</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><BR><BR></DIV><PRE>Ted Green ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dive Charter Boat: O.C. Diver Sunset Marina in Ocean City, Maryland http://www.ocdiver.com 410.742.1992 800.637.2102 Fax 410.749.9410 "Diving the Atlantic coast from Cape May NJ to Cape Charles VA." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0116_01C1F681.2D481F80-- -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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