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Tallahassee chamber so far is fine for our needs. We alert them when we are diving, and they know what diving we are doing. So far the bends cases that they have seen from us have been either botched deco by know it alls who I booted or made DIR, fat slobbery which we bench for, and diving with an existing injury and aggravating it. Sankey kept doing that ( until he got his back operated on finally ) and he was there so often he started dating one of the chamber nurses. Tally cooperates with us well, does not bother with the weenie bullshit, but I still like to call up DR Keper whenever something happens and ask him if he can get my diver back ready to dive the next day. That is my favorite phone call to make, and actually the real reason I call the doctor is to check on my diver. We have had no bends from doing the deco I do. We do not treat skin bends if they occur since it just aggravates the injury, although we did have one recent case of fat slobbery skin bends that did get treated, and that guy will never dive again in the WKPP until he learns how to do pushaways. The most serious bends cases ever seen in the WKPP were by support divers who had done a dive and then bounced shallow to pick up bottles, allowing compressed bubbles to get past the lungs and the reexpand as they came back up, giving them a real CNS hit. That has not happened in a long time because I no longer allow that ( and actually never did but failed to beat it into the heads of some of these people. The diver must be out for four hours before doing support, and they must ascend properly or I boot them for stupidity. Keep in mind in this discussion that we are doing massive bottom times, real bottom times, and are decompressing on my schedules which are three to four times faster than anything being done out there. One would think we would get bent if anybody would, but it is those who do not do it correctly or have preconditions that get bent -----Original Message----- From: Isaac Callicrate [mailto:icallicrate@ho*.co*] Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 7:51 AM To: techdiver@aquanaut.com Subject: Dr Black/ChamberHaters I spent a couple of my precious hours this afternoon reading vintage Dr Black on recommendation by several people. He sounded confrontational, abrasive, and it does seem like he likes a fight. I just dont like being ignored so I wouldnt want to do it to someone else. If he was constantly criticizing my ideas and activities I would probably be a little hesitant to answer his posts. Dr Black, whats the deal with the animosity? Are you not going to be satisfied until everyone on this list admits their faults. If that is what it takes to get this list on track with useful threads and dialogues I will start. Hi, my name is Isaac Callicrate and Im full of shit. Can we get on with things now. Trey, I found this quote by someone in one Dr Blacks summaries. "I hate those chamber guys - they are such officious weenies. Every time we wack somebody I like to phone them up and ask if they can get my guy ready to dive the next day - they go bullshit every time." Thats funny. I have heard similar sentiment echoed by a few WKPP people. There are a lot of excellent Hyperbaric MDs out there and a good handful of ones that if I needed a ride I would rather treat myself than let them. The abridged "intro to chamberology" Navy or Duke course just doesnt cut it in my book. Usually they are backed by some very proficient HB Nurses or DMTs who keep things straight. I dont know if someone is encouraging anti Hyperbarics sentiment in the WKPP but then why does it seem to be fairly common. Is the team at Talahassee bad? Im interested in how the Duke study turns out. Maybe that will offer evidence that the "unwilling masses" can digest. Why dont you or Scott publish updates on that? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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