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Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 17:54:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: terry michael <OEA51@go*.co*>
Subject: Re: Re: Number of logged dives
To: Capt JT <captjt@mi*.co*>, techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
I personally could care less who the applicants are, if not "well known" then
you are just asking for even more stress which could lead to an accident.


-----Original Message-----
From: "Capt JT"<captjt@mi*.co*>
To: "terry michael"<OEA51@go*.co*>, "techdiver"<techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Date: Sun Sep 30 19:02:08 PDT 2001
Subject: Re: Number of logged dives

>Terry, first, you don't even know who the applicants were/are, I have not 
>ever disclosed that info. Dave and Jim have seen some because I like to 
>prove I'm right to those around me sometimes, but  even they don't see them 
>all. Second, how do you know or don't know what I do to evaluate divers 
>skills. Here let me give you a clue, most of the guys who really can do the 
>dives are well known, it is a small circle of divers that do it and just 
>having completed a class doesn't cut it. No one gets on my trips unless I 
>know you or someone I know puts their NECK out for you.
>
>I am not talking about all VBtech trips, I am talking about the trips that 
>I put together. These are usually extreme in depth (beyond 300ft) or some 
>other risk like the inside of the "Marine Electric" or the Doria trips.
>
>Dave handles most of the other trips. That may be expanded next year so 
>some of the other guys can feel the stress of handling the trips.
>
>Sure I would like to see everyone dive a shallow wreck first, but that's 
>not always possible.
>
>At 05:34 PM 9/30/01 -0700, terry michael wrote:
>>I disagree the best way in my opinion to sort these guys out is shallow 
>>wreck to test skill level. Also make them plan some dives along with the 
>>contingences. You'll find many of your deep wreck applicants don't 
>>understand the basics and are a clusterf*ck in the water, even if they do 
>>have all the right equipment.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: "Capt JT"<captjt@mi*.co*>
>>To: "The McLeods"<rmmacleod@ac*.ca*>, 
>>"techdiver"<techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>>Date: Sat Sep 29 18:18:46 PDT 2001
>>Subject: Re: Number of logged dives
>>
>> >Randy, I have rejected many divers request to do the deep wrecks with me,
>> >not based on the logged number of dives they "say" they have, but the way
>> >they say it, in a matter of just a few emails I can pick out the lairs or
>> >losers most of the time. If I ask for a reference, you better have a good
>> >one. I have a list of emails I have saved from divers wanting to go on
>> >trips with me and I denied them access and saw later that they were injured
>> >or died on a dive, I can almost always pick them out.
>> >
>> >  At 08:21 PM 9/22/01 -0300, The McLeods wrote:
>> >>Hi JT,I know you can't be serious about dive number's.400 ocean dives in
>> >>the caribean mean's jack shit!The number of dives,or exagerated figures
>> >>most guy's throw around mean's nothing.The quality of the
>> >>dives,condition's experieced,skills of the people you dive with and many
>> >>other factor's seperate the real diver's from wannabees.Regards Randy
>> >
>> >"You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to get in the
>> >water"
>> >Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more
>> >  Web Site  http://www.capt-jt.com/
>> >Email     captjt@mi*.co*
>> >
>>
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