For those of you that are reading this thread you should check out under
the stories section on JT's web site  ( www.capt-jt.com/Dive_Stories.htm
) and read the 2 stories- Newbie W/Doubles. You can see what JT goes
through.... and I bet Trey has got some good stories too on how people
want to join him on his dives. I'm personally very happy with the
guidance that JT gave him. The Newbie went out and got more training and
has been doing the dives not just reading how to dive. I've got a good
dive buddy and a good personal friend because of it today. 

And NO I'm not the Newbie W/Doubles... ( I was never that good when I
started ) but I will say that JT is a mother hen when it comes to divers
doing "new" advanced dives, look at his pictures before and after the
last Doria trip he made, that's a lot of gray hair!


The Student.....






-----Original Message-----
From: terry michael [mailto:OEA51@go*.co*] 
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 8:54 PM
To: Capt JT; techdiver
Subject: Re: Re: Number of logged dives

I personally could care less who the applicants are, if not "well known"
then you are just asking for even more stress which could lead to an
accident.


-----Original Message-----
From: "Capt JT"<captjt@mi*.co*>
To: "terry michael"<OEA51@go*.co*>, "techdiver"<techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Date: Sun Sep 30 19:02:08 PDT 2001
Subject: Re: Number of logged dives

>Terry, first, you don't even know who the applicants were/are, I have
not 
>ever disclosed that info. Dave and Jim have seen some because I like to

>prove I'm right to those around me sometimes, but  even they don't see
them 
>all. Second, how do you know or don't know what I do to evaluate divers

>skills. Here let me give you a clue, most of the guys who really can do
the 
>dives are well known, it is a small circle of divers that do it and
just 
>having completed a class doesn't cut it. No one gets on my trips unless
I 
>know you or someone I know puts their NECK out for you.
>
>I am not talking about all VBtech trips, I am talking about the trips
that 
>I put together. These are usually extreme in depth (beyond 300ft) or
some 
>other risk like the inside of the "Marine Electric" or the Doria trips.
>
>Dave handles most of the other trips. That may be expanded next year so

>some of the other guys can feel the stress of handling the trips.
>
>Sure I would like to see everyone dive a shallow wreck first, but
that's 
>not always possible.
>
>At 05:34 PM 9/30/01 -0700, terry michael wrote:
>>I disagree the best way in my opinion to sort these guys out is
shallow 
>>wreck to test skill level. Also make them plan some dives along with
the 
>>contingences. You'll find many of your deep wreck applicants don't 
>>understand the basics and are a clusterf*ck in the water, even if they
do 
>>have all the right equipment.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: "Capt JT"<captjt@mi*.co*>
>>To: "The McLeods"<rmmacleod@ac*.ca*>, 
>>"techdiver"<techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>>Date: Sat Sep 29 18:18:46 PDT 2001
>>Subject: Re: Number of logged dives
>>
>> >Randy, I have rejected many divers request to do the deep wrecks
with me,
>> >not based on the logged number of dives they "say" they have, but
the way
>> >they say it, in a matter of just a few emails I can pick out the
lairs or
>> >losers most of the time. If I ask for a reference, you better have a
good
>> >one. I have a list of emails I have saved from divers wanting to go
on
>> >trips with me and I denied them access and saw later that they were
injured
>> >or died on a dive, I can almost always pick them out.
>> >
>> >  At 08:21 PM 9/22/01 -0300, The McLeods wrote:
>> >>Hi JT,I know you can't be serious about dive number's.400 ocean
dives in
>> >>the caribean mean's jack shit!The number of dives,or exagerated
figures
>> >>most guy's throw around mean's nothing.The quality of the
>> >>dives,condition's experieced,skills of the people you dive with and
many
>> >>other factor's seperate the real diver's from wannabees.Regards
Randy
>> >
>> >"You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to get
in the
>> >water"
>> >Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more
>> >  Web Site  http://www.capt-jt.com/
>> >Email     captjt@mi*.co*
>> >
>>
>>
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