This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0056_01C1421A.A7FC5780 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable JT babbled: <"Just as I thought, I told you in private you were a moron..... Your = first post proves it, you even call yourself a weenie..... check out his = first post from Sept 2000 ( that's just one year ago) and he lives here = in Va some where, I never even heard of him around here, any of you guys = in VBtech know him? You ain't nothing but an Internet Diver, stop = posting you don't have a clue...."> Well, gee whiz, being the authority on morons that you are, I would = expect better judgment from you. I'm not about to take any sort of = abuse from a pot-bellied, beach-hippie-looking jackass with an = over-inflated ego and a tendency to pander to fellow morons. If you're = the leader of VBTech, then how come Widen and Cobb seem to get it, and = you don't? My first post was founded in the fact that a little humility = goes a long way towards getting a friendly response on this list, as = opposed to pretending to know it all already. Humility is a trait you = should probably seek to acquire. Yeah, I lived in VA a year ago. I almost sought you out, thinking I = might learn something. However, I soon realized from the idiocy you = promote online that I wanted no part of such a three ring circus. I = moved to FL shortly after that post. I lived in FL for most of the past = year, and now I live in MS, if you care so much about where I live. I = spent the last year getting an education by diving (a lot) with, and = learning from people who, unlike you, know what they are doing. I've = had a unique opportunity to learn from the pros, and I feel obligated to = pass that information on when I can. Most of them have grown weary of = battling idiots like you, so I picked up the torch. Admittedly, I = haven't accomplished any great feats comparable to your endeavors such = as, oh, let's see...wallowing around in the sand at 490', or chasing = down a mooring line on the Doria, solo, after having to leave your piece = of shit scooter behind. No, my achievements pale by comparison... Quite frankly, I haven't much use for salt water right now, so = you'll notice that my posts steer clear of the boat crap. In reference = to the original post which prompted your inane little attack, I do, = however, know what it takes to make a team. My whole damn existence = counts on my ability to work in a team environment, at work and at play. = Two idiots sharing the same proximity doesn't make a team, in any = environment. I have never posted about anything I don't know about = firsthand, nor will I ever waste bandwidth that way. If you doubt the = logic of anything I have ever posted, then argue it. Sure, I'm still = the new guy around the kind of company I keep, but if you doubt my = ability or accomplishments in a cave, I'd be willing to bet I could come = up with quite a few folks who would much rather dive with me in that = environment than with a sideshow cowboy like you. As I said before, = I've had a fortunate opportunity to learn from the best. What I've = gained from this association, and my experiences thus far, I feel is = worth sharing. If you don't agree, fine. Just understand that doing = something WRONG 5,000 times doesn't make you any better at it, nor more = qualified to speak about it, than anyone else. Of course, your example = of how NOT to do things is invaluable to the entire list, and indeed, = the entire diving world. =20 Sincerely, Duane Liptak Jr. ------=_NextPart_000_0056_01C1421A.A7FC5780 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.72.3110.7"' name=3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#e0e0d0> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>JT babbled:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><"Just as I thought, I told you in private = you were a=20 moron..... Your first post proves it, you even call yourself a = weenie..... check=20 out his first post from Sept 2000 ( that's just one year ago) and he = lives here=20 in Va some where, I never even heard of him around here, any of you guys = in=20 VBtech know him? You ain't nothing but an Internet Diver, stop posting = you don't=20 have a clue...."><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2> <FONT size=3D3>Well, = gee whiz,=20 b</FONT><FONT size=3D3>eing the authority on morons that you are, I = would expect=20 better judgment from you. I'm not about to take any sort of abuse = from a=20 pot-bellied, beach-hippie-looking jackass with an over-inflated ego and = a=20 tendency to pander to fellow morons. If you're the leader of = VBTech, then=20 how come Widen and Cobb seem to get it, and you don't? My first = post was=20 founded in the fact that a little humility goes a long way towards = getting a=20 friendly response on this list, as opposed to pretending to know it all=20 already. Humility is a trait you should probably seek to=20 acquire.</FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2><FONT size=3D3> = Yeah, I lived in=20 VA a year ago. I almost sought you out, thinking I might learn = something. =20 However, I soon realized from the idiocy you promote online that I = wanted no=20 part of such a three ring circus. I moved to FL shortly after that = post. I=20 lived in FL for most of the past year, and now I live in MS, if you care = so much=20 about where I live. I spent the last year getting an education by=20 diving (a lot) with, and learning from people who, unlike you, = know what=20 they are doing. I've had a unique opportunity to learn from the = pros, and=20 I feel obligated to pass that information on when I can. Most of = them have=20 grown weary of battling idiots like you, so I picked up the torch. = Admittedly, I haven't accomplished any great feats comparable to your = endeavors=20 such as, oh, let's see...wallowing around in the sand at 490', or = chasing down a=20 mooring line on the Doria, solo, after having to leave your piece of = shit=20 scooter behind. No, my achievements pale by=20 comparison...</FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2><FONT size=3D3> = Quite frankly, I=20 haven't much use for salt water right now, so you'll notice that my = posts steer=20 clear of the boat crap. In reference to the original post which = prompted=20 your inane little attack, I do, however, know what it takes to make a=20 team. My whole damn existence counts on my ability to work in a = team=20 environment, at work and at play. Two idiots sharing the same = proximity=20 doesn't make a team, in any environment. I have never posted = about=20 anything I don't know about firsthand, nor will I ever waste bandwidth = that=20 way. If you doubt the logic of anything I have ever posted, then = argue=20 it. Sure, I'm still the new guy around the kind of company I keep, = but if=20 you doubt my ability or accomplishments in a cave, I'd be willing to bet = I could=20 come up with quite a few folks who would much rather dive with me in = that=20 environment than with a sideshow cowboy like you. As I said = before, I've=20 had a fortunate opportunity to learn from the best. What I've = gained from=20 this association, and my experiences thus far, I feel is worth = sharing. If=20 you don't agree, fine. Just understand that doing something WRONG = 5,000=20 times doesn't make you any better at it, nor more qualified to speak = about it,=20 than anyone else. Of course, your example of how NOT to do things = is=20 invaluable to the entire list, and indeed, the entire diving = world. =20 </FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2><FONT = size=3D3></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV>Sincerely,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Duane Liptak Jr.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0056_01C1421A.A7FC5780-- -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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