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From: "Duane Liptak Jr." <dliptakjr@ea*.ne*>
To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>, "Capt JT" <captjt@mi*.co*>,
     ,
Subject: buddy teams, was Re: Death of Eric Reichardt, 9/16/01
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 15:11:09 -0500
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>You are diving as a buddy team at this point, lets agree on this =
because=20
>you entered the water together.


    This is a dangerous statement.  Co-located individuals do not a =
buddy team make.  What we have here is two individuals who have talked =
about their respective dive plans, and chosen to conduct them =
concurrently.  Each of them had a different dive objective, had =
different life support systems that their counterpart may or may not =
have had more than passing familiarity with, and neither of them planned =
to keep the other under observation during critical or task loaded =
phases of the dive, namely descent and deco ("25 minute planned bottom =
times, with total run times of 107 minutes and 121 minutes", "Eric was =
to shoot his own bag" ).  On top of this, there was no support.  =
Dropping down the same shot line doesn't mean you are paying close =
enough attention to the other guy to make a damn of difference.  They =
were diving solo--the original post states this as an agreed upon fact, =
and rightfully so. =20

>Eric is the diver at=20
>risk and should have been in front for you to easily monitor. It does =
not=20
>matter if it is a camera, video camera, or gear to collect fish. Those=20
>divers should lead as this extra gear puts them at risk. The weakest =
diver=20
>should also always goes first.


Well, I partially agree with this part, but...If the dive would have =
been conducted as a "no shit" team effort, they both would have =
monitored each other more closely for problems during descent, and the =
rest of the dive, for that matter, and would have been diving the same =
gear configuration so they would have been more capable of useful =
assistance in the event of a problem.  An occasional look over one's =
shoulder doesn't cut it, especially when you're both diving different =
pieces of crap stroke gear that require you to turn more knobs and =
levers than the man behind the curtain in the Wizard of Oz.

To Mike--I'm sorry you lost a friend.  BUT, I'm even more sorry that =
neither of you saw the writing on the wall early enough to stop this =
nonsense.  What bothers me even more--and I hope I'm wrong here--is the =
fact that you will probably keep on doing the same shit until it catches =
up to you.


Duane



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<DIV><BR>>You are diving as a buddy team at this point, lets agree on =
this=20
because <BR>>you entered the water together.<BR></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>    This is a dangerous statement.  Co-located=20
individuals do not a buddy team make.  What we have here is two =
individuals=20
who have talked about their respective dive plans, and chosen to conduct =
them=20
concurrently.  Each of them had a different dive objective, had =
different=20
life support systems that their counterpart may or may not have had more =
than=20
passing familiarity with, and neither of them planned to keep the other =
under=20
observation during critical or task loaded phases of the dive, namely =
descent=20
and deco ("25 minute planned bottom times, with total run times of =
107=20
minutes and 121 minutes", "Eric was to shoot his own bag" =

).  On top of this, there was no support.  Dropping down the =
same shot=20
line doesn't mean you are paying close enough attention to the other guy =
to make=20
a damn of difference.  They were diving solo--the original post =
states this=20
as an agreed upon fact, and rightfully so.  </DIV>
<DIV><BR>>Eric is the diver at <BR>>risk and should have been in
=
front for=20
you to easily monitor. It does not <BR>>matter if it is a camera, =
video=20
camera, or gear to collect fish. Those <BR>>divers should lead as =
this extra=20
gear puts them at risk. The weakest diver <BR>>should also always =
goes=20
first.<BR></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Well, I partially agree with this part, but...If the dive would =
have been=20
conducted as a "no shit" team effort, they <STRONG>both =
</STRONG>would=20
have monitored <STRONG>each other </STRONG>more closely for problems =
during=20
descent, and the rest of the dive, for that matter, and would have been =
diving=20
the same gear configuration so they would have been more capable of =
useful=20
assistance in the event of a problem.  An occasional look over =
one's=20
shoulder doesn't cut it, especially when you're both diving different =
pieces of=20
crap stroke gear that require you to turn more knobs and levers than the =
man=20
behind the curtain in the Wizard of Oz.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>To Mike--I'm sorry you lost a friend.  BUT, I'm even more =
sorry that=20
neither of you saw the writing on the wall early enough to stop this=20
nonsense.  What bothers me even more--and I hope I'm wrong here--is =
the=20
fact that you will probably keep on doing the same shit until it catches =
up to=20
you.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Duane</DIV>
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