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From: "Chris Elmore" <elmorec@at*.ne*>
To: <Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com>
Subject: Re: Justafish, Justafish, Justafish...
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 08:07:07 -0400

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Bell" <leebell@ix*.ne*.co*>
To: "Chris Elmore" <elmorec@at*.ne*>; <Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: Justafish, Justafish, Justafish...


> > I can assure you that any diving death hurts Trey, me and all of us.
>
> You can speak for yourself and no more.  Trey's a big boy and can speak
for
> himself, as he has.  Having spoken, he can live with the results.

Lee, I could be mistaken, I'll have to go back and ask my insurance agent
why they won't issue me a life policy because of the dives I do. On second
thought, it's probably not the dives *I* do but the dives that the strokes
do. I don't need to speak for Trey or any one else because the idiots have
become our de facto spokesmen. What I CAN do is two fold; 1) try to change
the dangerous mindset (sometimes called "personal preference" or "Maffatone
syndrome") of these strokes, and 2) distance the hard cases from me as much
as possible (sometimes called "rule 1" or "hammering the idiots"). You can
whine all you want about the harsh delivery but these are people that
blatently ignore reason (sometimes called "strokes"). There was a local shop
owner who was a super nice guy and was someone everyone liked- he killed
himself doing some deep air record attempt in Cozumel. Yes, he had the right
to do that but why don't you explain that to the wife and infant he left
behind? I've been around too much death (it doesn't take much) in this
activity- it has changed the way  I dive and I will no longer stand by
quietly while people do stupid shit and kill themselves. Eric's gone. I'm
sure he was a nice guy and everyone liked him, yadda, yadda, yadda, but the
price he paid for his stupidity goes beyond his death and the loss to his
family. He owes a debt to us to know why he died. That knowlege without some
corrective action is pointless. The delivery method Trey uses may be harsh
but it gets the discussion going (as we are doing here) which helps the
divers who are still evaluating the merits of DIR vs Personal preference.
Without the controversy the "discussion" would have stopped at, "He was a
nice guy and will be missed..."


>
> ...Of all of us, however, only Trey chose to express
> delight at the death of another.  Criticism of his post has nothing to do
> with DIR and everything to do with his post.  Get over it.

His post has everything to do with correcting the problem- YOU get over it.

C.
Chris Elmore


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