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Justafish (?!),
What you and some others on this list are missing is mistaking =
anger for happiness. I can assure you that any diving death hurts Trey, =
me and all of us. Sometimes it takes a fatality for "the message" to =
reach some people- I was one of them. The fact that there has been a =
long-standing opposition to electronic rebreathers due to some =
fundamental conceptual flaws and they "mysteriously" keep killing =
people makes this more tragic. If it takes a fatality to get the message =
across then it's human nature to believe that the best person to send =
the message is someone who was a vocal proponent of the cause of the =
accident. For example, this list was in a rather heated discussion of =
Tony Maffatone's convoluted rig when one of the fundamental conceptual =
flaws inherent in his rig killed him. I'm sure Tony was a "good guy" and =
"loved by all that knew him" and all that other stuff people say when =
death outwits the living, but that doesn't change the tecno-darwinian =
outcome.
This "accident" is the antethesis of DIR. Electronic rebreather, =
solo, wrong equipment for the dive... it would probably be easier to =
list what was right about it. Bottom line is DIR is a safer way to dive =
and some people don't like George as the messenger of that. Big deal. =
How about JJ or Andrew or me or any of the other proponents of DIR? =
Maybe it takes a death or series of deaths to make the point to some =
people. Eric, Steve Berman, Rob Palmer... These aren't the =
first-open-water-dive-since-certification accidents like the guy in =
California this past weekend. These are experienced divers who =
compromised some aspect of the dive and got caught. To some extent, we =
all spin the chamber whenever we drop below the surface but if I have to =
spin the chamber I want a lot of empty chambers to stack the odds in my =
favor.=20
Contrary to many people's belief, the rigidity of DIR diving =
provides more freedom and enjoyment than the loose, uncoordinated =
"personal preference" diving style so prevalent today- It's like having =
interchangable dive buddies.
So tell me- What does it take for YOU to get the message? Sugar-coated =
dilivery, a 2X4, the death of someone you thought had their act =
together? Let me know and I'll find someone who can speak the language =
you can hear.
C.
Chris Elmore
PalmettoSoft Technologies Corp.
(803) 233-2001 (work)
(803) 348-3055 (mobile)
=20
----- Original Message -----=20
From: justafish=20
To: Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com ; trey@ne*.co*=20
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 1:02 AM
Subject: Trey, Trey, Trey...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Trey" <trey@ne*.co*>
To: "Jody Everett" <jeverett@ne*.co*>; "Quest@Gu*. Com"
<quest@gu*.co*>; "FlTechDiver@mikey. net" <FlTechDiver@mikey.net>;
"Wkpp@Eg*.Co*" <wkpp@eg*.co*>; "Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com"
<techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 7:47 AM
Subject: RE: Another of your buddies?? FW: dive accident
> One more of my enemies dead bodies goes floating by. This is the =
asshole
> who was hammering me on the Fl tech list and was lying about me, =
Pina and
> the WKPP. Glad to see another moron set the example - solo with a
> rebreather, bringing the Cis body count to 4 or 5 .
=20
Trey.
First of all, I have to say I watched the WKPP special on Discovery. =
Yes, it was impressive, however,
you have to realize Discovery is good.
In regards to your gloating over another's death, you really shouldn't =
be so critical of other divers. We all know YOU think you are the =
best...or at least are trying to be. You too can learn from others. =
Your way is not necessarily the right way for others. I see few times =
when you offer valuable information. Perhaps you feel such joy when a =
life is taken away, because this helps to shrink the population, thus =
aiding you in becoming closer to the top. Remember, you dive down, not =
up! Keep searching for an exit to the caves. Perhaps someday you will =
reach it, however, don't be surprised if you have traveled a great =
distance down, only to lead to the door of hell.
Happy diving!
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Justafish
(?!),</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2> What =
you and=20
some others on this list are missing is mistaking anger for happiness. I =
can=20
assure you that any diving death hurts Trey, me and all of us. Sometimes =
it=20
takes a fatality for "the message" to reach some people- I was one of =
them. The=20
fact that there has been a long-standing opposition to electronic =
rebreathers=20
due to some fundamental conceptual flaws and they "mysteriously" =
keep=20
killing people makes this more tragic. If it takes a fatality to get the =
message=20
across then it's human nature to believe that the best person to send =
the=20
message is someone who was a vocal proponent of the cause of the =
accident. For=20
example, this list was in a rather heated discussion of Tony Maffatone's =
convoluted rig when one of the fundamental conceptual flaws inherent in =
his rig=20
killed him. I'm sure Tony was a "good guy" and "loved by all that knew =
him" and=20
all that other stuff people say when death outwits the living, but that =
doesn't=20
change the tecno-darwinian outcome.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2> This =
"accident"=20
is the antethesis of DIR. Electronic rebreather, solo, wrong equipment =
for the=20
dive... it would probably be easier to list what was right about it. =
Bottom line=20
is DIR is a safer way to dive and some people don't like George as the =
messenger=20
of that. Big deal. How about JJ or Andrew or me or any of the other =
proponents=20
of DIR? Maybe it takes a death or series of deaths to make the point to =
some=20
people. Eric, Steve Berman, Rob Palmer... These aren't the=20
first-open-water-dive-since-certification accidents like the guy in =
California=20
this past weekend. These are experienced divers who compromised some =
aspect of=20
the dive and got caught. To some extent, we all spin the chamber =
whenever we=20
drop below the surface but if I have to spin the chamber I want a lot of =
empty=20
chambers to stack the odds in my favor. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2> =
Contrary to many=20
people's belief, the rigidity of DIR diving provides more freedom and =
enjoyment=20
than the loose, uncoordinated "personal preference" diving style so =
prevalent=20
today- It's like having interchangable dive buddies.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>So tell me- What does it take =
for YOU to=20
get the message? Sugar-coated dilivery, a 2X4, the death of someone you =
thought=20
had their act together? Let me know and I'll find someone who can speak =
the=20
language you can hear.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>C.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><BR>Chris Elmore<BR>PalmettoSoft Technologies Corp.<BR>(803) =
233-2001=20
(work)<BR>(803) 348-3055 (mobile)<BR> </DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A href=3D"mailto:quaesitus@ho*.co*"=20
title=3Dquaesitus@ho*.co*>justafish</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com"=20
title=3DTechdiver@Aquanaut.Com>Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com</A> ; <A=20
href=3D"mailto:trey@ne*.co*" =
title=3Dtrey@ne*.co*>trey@netdor.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, September
19, =
2001 1:02=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Trey, Trey, =
Trey...</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: "Trey" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:trey@ne*.co*">trey@netdor.com</A>><BR>To: "Jody =
Everett"=20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:jeverett@ne*.co*">jeverett@netwaysolutions.com=
</A>>;=20
"<A href=3D"mailto:Quest@Gu*">Quest@Gue</A>. Com"<BR><<A=20
href=3D"mailto:quest@gu*.co*">quest@gue.com</A>>; "<A=20
href=3D"mailto:FlTechDiver@mikey">FlTechDiver@mikey</A>. net" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:FlTechDiver@mikey.net">FlTechDiver@mikey.net</A>>;<BR>"=
<A=20
href=3D"mailto:Wkpp@Eg*.Co*">Wkpp@Egroups.Com</A>" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:wkpp@eg*.co*">wkpp@egroups.com</A>>; "<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com">Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com</A>"<BR><=
;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com">techdiver@aquanaut.com</A>><BR>=
Sent:=20
Tuesday, September 18, 2001 7:47 AM<BR>Subject: RE: Another of your =
buddies??=20
FW: dive accident<BR><BR><BR>> One more of my enemies dead =
bodies=20
goes floating by. This is the asshole<BR>> who was hammering me on =
the Fl=20
tech list and was lying about me, Pina and<BR>> the WKPP. Glad to =
see=20
another moron set the example - solo with a<BR>> rebreather, =
bringing the=20
Cis body count to 4 or 5 .</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000080 face=3D"Trebuchet MS" =
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000080 face=3D"Trebuchet MS" =
size=3D2>Trey.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000080 face=3D"Trebuchet MS" size=3D2>First of =
all, I have to=20
say I watched the WKPP special on Discovery. Yes, it was =
impressive,=20
however,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000080 face=3D"Trebuchet MS" size=3D2>you have to =
realize=20
Discovery is good.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000080 face=3D"Trebuchet MS" size=3D2>In regards =
to your=20
gloating over another's death, you really shouldn't be so =
critical=20
of other divers. We all know YOU think you are the best...or at =
least=20
are trying to be. You too can learn from others. Your way is not =
necessarily the right way for others. I see few times when you =
offer=20
valuable information. Perhaps you feel such joy when a life =
is=20
taken away, because this helps to shrink the population, thus aiding =
you in=20
becoming closer to the top. Remember, you dive down, not up! Keep =
searching for an exit to the caves. Perhaps someday you =
will reach=20
it, however, don't be surprised if you have traveled a great distance =
down,=20
only to lead to the door of hell.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000080 face=3D"Trebuchet MS" size=3D2>Happy=20
diving!</FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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