Scott, I started it. Again, (we've had this conversation before) from TDI's website: http://www.tdisdi.com/tdi/courses/courses.html#ExtRange ************ Extended Range This course provides the training and experience required to competently utilize air for dives up to 180 fsw/55msw that require staged decompression, utilizing nitrox mixtures and oxygen during decompression. ************ When TDI stops advocating this crap I'll start listening- until then it's Wak-A-Mole. "competently utilize air for dives up to 180 fsw/55msw..." Really?! Please forward this message to any decision makers at TDI and tell us what their comments are. And THAT is what Techdiver is about. C. ----- Original Message ----- From: <ScottBonis@ao*.co*> To: <wgrogan@dc*.ne*>; <techdiver@aquanaut.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 5:07 PM Subject: Re: WTF is Ed? > Wendell, > > I don't care who you are or how much you think you know about diving, please > knock off the snide comments about TDI. Even though most of us on this list > support the DIR rules for diving, this is still the Techdiver list and not > Quest. And whether you choose to believe it or not, the entire scuba world > does not revolve around DIR techniques. Simply because I use and teach them > (because I think they represent the wisest and safest information available) > and because you use them, does not imply that they are the only possible > guidelines for diving safely. > > There are a whole bunch of TDI instructors out there and the vast majority > are competent and conscientious scuba instructors. I get real tired of many > of the people on this list taking cheap shots at TDI. If you have a specific > complaint about a specific item, then make it known to TDI headquarters and > they'll look into it. Or let me know about it (on or off the list) and I'll > be glad to pass it along. > > Perhaps you've heard about some TDI instructor that didn't teach some course > the way you thought it should have been taught. It's certainly possible in > that I don't necessarily agree with some of the things that are taught. But > I can do without the constant childish snide comments about the entire > organization. The TDI instructors with whom I've dealt, teach safe and > competent diving techniques. > > GUE seems to be a solid organization that has a reasonable control over what > the GUE instructor's teach. But there are how many GUE instructors to > oversee, perhaps a few dozen worldwide? Try comparing that to over 7,000 TDI > instructors and the control problem becomes significantly greater. > > Why don't you try simply pointing out the valid differences between DIR and > some of the other methods being taught and leave out the derogatory comments > about other dive certification agencies? You do not build yourself up by > tearing others down. I have come to expect this behavior from all of the DIR > zealot lemmings on this list but I would not have expected this from you. > > Take care and dive safe, Scott > > Some weeks it's just not worth the effort to gnaw through the restraints and > scramble up out of the pit. > > > > > In a message dated 7/23/01 6:42:33 PM, wgrogan@dc*.ne* writes: > > << References: One guy that has met him says he almost washed out of a TDI > >course (This really sounds too impossible to believe but I pass it on > anyway). > > How do you wash out of a TDI course? Write a bad check, insult the parentage > of the instructors wife? Maybe we could come up with a dirty dozen.... > > Wendell >> > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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