From: <Dogtrner1@ao*.co*> To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2001 11:11 PM Subject: Re: Deep Air > I also will note: Gang, it's not the organizations that are bad---that's > like calling all guns bad. It's the individuals that make up the > organization, or the instructors that teach. Karla, As long as the training agencies advocate deep air the bad instructors will use that fact as justification for teaching it. The insideousness of narcosis and hypothermia are probably more dangerous than any equipment failure for a trained diver. Below is a review of the major technical agency's policies on air at depth. If anyone thinks they can bring a logical argument for breathing air at 165'-180' I'm sure we'd all like to hear it; otherwise, contact these agencies and ask them to revise their standards to 130' max EAD. ANDI- http://www.andihq.com/ANDIHQ/train.htm Extended-Range Exploration Diver....................165' "Recommended", however, "option to extend to 190 ... for the practical application of narcosis management as well as an evaluation of personal limits." DSAT (PADI Tech) http://www.padi.com/courses/tecrec/TecDeepDiver.asp DSAT Tec Deep Diver.....................165 feet IANTD- http://209.203.202.229/index1.html Deep Diver...............130 fsw (This suprised me. With whatever other faults IANTD may have they should be commended for adopting a decent depth for air/nitrox) NAUITEC- http://www.nauitec.com Extended Range Diver Course...................180' (they do "Strongly recommend" that helium be used "where availible" for training dives in excess of 150') TDI- http://www.tdisdi.com/ Extended Range..........................180' (TDI ads the ludicrous statement, "This course provides the training and experience required to competently utilize air for dives up to 180 fsw...". Interestingly, for trimix dive training the phrase, "and safely" is added after "competently". Maybe they realize that air at 180' isn't safe but it doesn't seem to affect their desire to sell it.) And just for comparison... GUE- http://www.gue.com/classroom/standards/gue_tech1_student.pdf Tech 1.............."equivalent narcotic depth" 100 +/- 30' (maximum dive depth 130') -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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