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I was wondering if someone was going to have an unpleasant response! I have taking a couple of TDI courses, from specific instructors, not TDI as far as I'm concerned. My concern with TDI is not the syllabus or the published course standards, its more that the organization is such that just about anyone could take and pass one of their courses. In many countries, there is not much choice, and the TDI instructors I've been in contact with have high personal standards, to the point of rejecting some of the idiocy from HQ. Of course, the same can be said about PADI (from which I've also taken courses), its just that the opportunity presented itself to pick on someone other than the usual object of derision. Personally, I feel that once you get beyond basic open water, the only way to learn is to teach yourself as much as possible, and then find an instructor with a stellar rep to fill in the blanks, show you what you got wrong, and smooth out the rough edges. Relying on a 3 or 4 day course to teach you much of anything is foolhardy. Wendell 7/24/01 5:07:56 PM, ScottBonis@ao*.co* wrote: >Wendell, > >I don't care who you are or how much you think you know about diving, please >knock off the snide comments about TDI. Even though most of us on this list >support the DIR rules for diving, this is still the Techdiver list and not >Quest. And whether you choose to believe it or not, the entire scuba world >does not revolve around DIR techniques. Simply because I use and teach them >(because I think they represent the wisest and safest information available) >and because you use them, does not imply that they are the only possible >guidelines for diving safely. > >There are a whole bunch of TDI instructors out there and the vast majority >are competent and conscientious scuba instructors. I get real tired of many >of the people on this list taking cheap shots at TDI. If you have a specific >complaint about a specific item, then make it known to TDI headquarters and >they'll look into it. Or let me know about it (on or off the list) and I'll >be glad to pass it along. > >Perhaps you've heard about some TDI instructor that didn't teach some course >the way you thought it should have been taught. It's certainly possible in >that I don't necessarily agree with some of the things that are taught. But >I can do without the constant childish snide comments about the entire >organization. The TDI instructors with whom I've dealt, teach safe and >competent diving techniques. > >GUE seems to be a solid organization that has a reasonable control over what >the GUE instructor's teach. But there are how many GUE instructors to >oversee, perhaps a few dozen worldwide? Try comparing that to over 7,000 TDI >instructors and the control problem becomes significantly greater. > >Why don't you try simply pointing out the valid differences between DIR and >some of the other methods being taught and leave out the derogatory comments >about other dive certification agencies? You do not build yourself up by >tearing others down. I have come to expect this behavior from all of the DIR >zealot lemmings on this list but I would not have expected this from you. > >Take care and dive safe, Scott > >Some weeks it's just not worth the effort to gnaw through the restraints and >scramble up out of the pit. > > > > >In a message dated 7/23/01 6:42:33 PM, wgrogan@dc*.ne* writes: > ><< References: One guy that has met him says he almost washed out of a TDI >>course (This really sounds too impossible to believe but I pass it on >anyway). > >How do you wash out of a TDI course? Write a bad check, insult the parentage >of the instructors wife? Maybe we could come up with a dirty dozen.... > >Wendell >> > > > -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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