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From: "Duane Liptak Jr." <d.liptak.jr@wo*.at*.ne*>
To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>, "Ed Street" <blacknet@ph*.ne*>
Subject: Re: DIR setup
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 19:29:31 -0500
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    Ed, I'm growing weary of this.  I, and others, have tried to be =
civil in our responses to your original post, which was, by the way, =
rather uncivil in its own right.  The only thing you can come back with =
is a bunch of playground bullshit, which is still in a rather venomous =
tongue.

>I would strongly urge you to stick to the facts instead of spreading =
shit that you >obviously know nothing about

    Ed, I, and others, did stick to the facts.  All I ask is that if you =
intend to keep arguing, show me some of your "facts".  Tell me where DIR =
doesn't work and why.  Tell me who has died diving DIR.  Tell me where =
you learned DIR and from whom.  Tell me what you think doesn't work and =
why.  Tell me what you have done diving that would make you qualified to =
offer your subjective evaluations of this or any system, or show me =
objective reasoning that makes some kind of sense, and is based on =
facts. =20

    Also, please stop with the "in business" or "in the business world" =
crap.  This is diving, and getting business involved has been one of the =
biggest detriments to the sport, period.  Making a profit has nothing to =
do with doing it right. =20

    I'm getting the impression that someone who dives DIR or claims to =
dive DIR stepped on your toes and pissed you off sometime recently.  If =
it was indeed an incident like this that brought about this tirade, then =
perhaps the ego and "machismo" problems are yours.  And, as far as =
bringing the validity of the source into question goes, your =
devoid-of-facts ranting brings up some questions about you.  So, I leave =
you with an invitation to back it up, or back off.

Duane

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others, have tried to be civil in our responses to your original post, =
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color=3D#000000>></FONT>I would strongly urge you to stick to the =
facts instead=20
of spreading shit that you >obviously know nothing =
about</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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others, did stick to the facts.  All I ask is that if you intend to =
keep=20
arguing, show me some of your "facts".  Tell me where DIR =
doesn't=20
work and why.  Tell me who has died diving DIR.  Tell me where =
you=20
learned DIR and from whom.  Tell me what you think doesn't work and =

why.  Tell me what you have done diving that would make you =
qualified to=20
offer your subjective evaluations of this or any system, or show me =
objective=20
reasoning that makes some kind of sense, and is based on facts. =20
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stop with the "in business" or "in the business =
world"=20
crap.  This is diving, and getting business involved has been one =
of the=20
biggest detriments to the sport, period.  Making a profit has =
nothing to do=20
with doing it right.</FONT></FONT><FONT face=3DArial> =20
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sometime=20
recently.  If it was indeed an incident like this that brought =
about this=20
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yours. =20
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