This has GOT to be a TROLL from rec.scuba! No one in tech diving can be THIS blind. Ed Street wrote: > Hello, > > I've been looking at the DIR setup for awhile now and I have came to the > conclusion that it's not a good setup and to me it seems like a very > dangerous layout for several reasons. > > a) it goes against the majority of diving standards known today. Like how > many total training facilities in the U.S. (yea I'm in the u.s. and don't > give a flip about non-us stuff here) teaches this concept vs. the total > number of facilities that teaches other theories? > > b) A lot of the 'experts' seems to rant and rave on those who doesn't follow > them for what seems, to me, like bad business practices. It's like someone > who has a different idea or theory is instantly > hounded/harassed/insulted/belittled/etc.. for having their own thoughts or > ideas about things. One way of looking at this is evolution didn't just > happen, it was a slow gradual step by step and update by update over a long > period of time. What changes/update/revisions has the DIR system undergone? > > c) Most dive outfits doesn't support the dir layout. Why is this? Is it > because that it's not that good? Is it because that there's to many people > turns up DEAD? Is it because of the above and below statements? From > talking to many shops about it and a lot of divers about this subject I > gather that if your looking for machoism, egotistical and the like then DIR > is for you. Scuba equipment is just that, equipment. It's a tool someone > uses to achieve a desired means. You don't use a screw driver to turn a > lug-nut. So why should I use the DIR setup in all cases? My theory is it's > just ONE of the many tools out there that can be used but isn't useful in > some cases. If the non-DIR equipment is really that bad then why are they > still being produced? Why are they no regulations to remove the bad crap > and put the good crap in place? I seem to recall this being done with some > tanks recently. > > D) Isn't one of the rules to not dive with non-DIR divers? It's like if you > don't follow some rigid standards then your instantly a 'stroke'? So what > about all these people who die while diving the DIR setup? Does that mean > since they never surfaced they are a 'stroke'? It's like the standards are > so high that it's very very difficult for anyone to maintain at all times > but yet expect everyone to maintain them at all times. This makes no sense. > Human nature dictates that humans are not perfect and makes mistakes all the > time. The higher the standards the more mistakes will be made. Sadly when > these mistakes ARE made it cost the person their life. Now in the > recreational community when these mistakes are made alot of the time the > person will survive (depending on a lot of things) This leads to another > thing. If you can't dive w/ non-DIR divers and there few and far between in > some areas (like my area) then how the fuck are you expected to do the buddy > system? Or are you expected to do solo and turn your odds up even more of > not coming up alive? > > E) I've talked to some divers who felt that the DIR setup was just totally > wrong for them, their person and their lifestyles. They felt that it was > out of place and very hard to adjust to it. I thought diving was all about > the comfort layer that the individual person felt. How is it that we can > dictate how others must dress and what equipment they must use when it's > what WE use that counts the most? An example, if diver A feels that the > layout they are using is not right gets in the water then they are at a > higher risk of problems. Not just equipment problems but physical and more > importantly psychological. So say everyone uses the dir setup and one person > in the group doesn't feel right with the layout but they are putting blind > faith in the layout (I see this a lot) and some problem arises, who do you > think you can least trust? Say they kept their mouth shut and you don't > even know about their view on this, who then can you trust? If you put your > trust in them they could end up killing you. All because people are putting > peer pressure on non-dir divers to dive the DIR setup, which in my opinion > is totally WRONG. > > F) It would seem to me, from a business standpoint, that if you wanted an > idea to flourish then you would cut out all the negativity/hostility that is > generated towards the non-conforming divers and instead have compassion, > understanding and in a caring manner educate the public as to why it's a > 'superior' method. This machoism attitude is depermental to a divers > health. There is *NOTHING* under that water that's worth your life and to > me it would seem that diving with any machoistic setup/equipment/person > would just endanger my life. See where this is going? > > g) I see a lot of needless deaths cause a lot of people try to imitate what > some groups are doing like the WKPP and enter areas, like caves, and later > the morgue is called. The reason they die is the diver feels that they can > handle the task, they see the machoism from these groups and one of the > traditional machoistic viewpoints is "you don't ask for help cause you can > do it" so they do do it and they die because of it. My input here is get > rid of the machoistic front and you'll get alot MORE divers doing your > style. > > You can call me anything you like but that doesn't hide nor stop the fact > that I flat refuse to dive any form of DIY simply because my standards are > to high and this method, to me, is nothing but an accident waiting to happen > to good people. It tends to lead people astray and promote a psychological > separation from one's well being and the image that one presents. > > Oh and btw, no flames please. These are my viewpoints and if you do feel > you need to flame me then that's your egotistical machoistic approach > feeling threatened. Also flaming is a sign of non-stable and uncertainty on > the flamers part. > > Ed > > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- You Don't HAVE to be NUTS to be a SysAdmin./WebMaster. BUT it Helps! http://www.thecrusaderbbs.com -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- GAT dpu s+: a++ C UL++++ P+ L+++ E- W+++ N+ o-- K w O M- V-- PS PE Y PGP- t-- 5 X- R- tv+ b++ DI++++ D G- e h--- r+++ z+++ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK----- -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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