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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01C101FE.627D8A00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Capt Wyatt, I am sure that in your world Mouth is the Dali Lama, but the = fact is that while the man has been at it for some 50 years, or at least = 30, he has failed to participate in any real diving ever. He has failed = to do anything but gravitate to the lowest common denominator and to = surround himself with like kind. As a consequence, is has been slow to = do anything that makes any sense, and unfortunately there are several = deaths out there that document this. He has had to be beaten into = submission in court or by his "peers" or by the example of the real pros = in this game for what little concessions to common sense he has made. In my opinion, formulated over 13 years of knowing this guy, he is = motivated by nothing but the buck. When I first met him he was teaching = deep air and "deco" diving, at the time what he considered to be "tech", = and he and the biggest collection of losers on the planet started IANTD = a few years later, well after the pros in cave diving were using = techniques he still does not grasp, leaving IANTD speaking for itself as = a mediocre collection of compromises to stupidity, being only displaced = in the bottom of the barrel" category by TDI. Now the easy buck comes from teaching electronic rebreathers to people = who don't have any reason to dive rebreathers as a "higher order" = certifications for the badge collectors and a 12 inch dick for the = pussies, and the concepts learned from his organization are what make up = the accident reports that you see so many of. Mouth thinks these devices = are some great thing. Funny, I hold the cave diving distance record on = rebreather along with my friend Jarrod Jablonski, and I think = rebreathers represent nothing but risk and should only be used for a = very good reason like for the dives we do. I never dive mine without a = good reason, and I never dive mine without an all pro buddy like JJ. = Notice that all of the deaths have no reason to dive, and the dead are = all either solo or diving with complete idiots whose incompetence and = fear ( read IANTD training ) leaves them without a solution. The = concepts and principles taught in IANTD are the antithesis of DIR , and = they have the track record to prove it. Where have I been for the last 25 years? Exploring all the caves that = the know it alls like you and the rest of the "mouths" in the cave = "community" could not touch if they were dry and had a Disney ride = running through them. I also am not in the dive business - I have a real = life - , was only in the Navy due to the Viet Nam War, and since then = have never met any more stupid bunch of morons even when I played = football with pure animals, and their diving is complete bullshit. I = obviously was not there as a diver or any other kind of sleddog. How's = that?=20 Let's make an obvious point here: who has all the records and what = organizations and people are involved in that, and why do they not have = the death toll and constant accidents, and why do they do all the diving = and why do they come up with all the leading edge in this game? Tell me = again who Tom Mount is, I still don't see anything but bullshit.=20 From: Florida Keys Reef-Divers=20 To: techdiver@aquanaut.com=20 Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2001 4:56 PM Subject: Tom Mount I was trained as a cave diver by a student of Tom Mounts', Bill = Schenck. Later I dived with Tom in several caves over a several years.=20 Tom was training director of NACD at the time & Scheck Exley ran the = NACD ITC I attended=20 when I became NACD Instructor # 28 in 1975. These were the early days = of Cave diving=20 when the pioneers, like Tom were making "Safe Cave Diving". My hat has been off to Tom for almost 25 years.Where were you 25 years = ago? I wonder if Patti remebers me taking her to the abyss off of = Galteres' boat at the Royal Palms in Grand Cayman in 1978?? Tom Mount & Bill Schenck provided me with the best technical diver = training I ever received. This training equals my training as a U.S. = Navy Diving/Salvage officer. I dive about everyday & run my own charter scuba boat in the Lower = Florida Keys EVERYDAY. Now; I won't respond to flames. I don't intend to piss & moan with you = either. My motivation for this post was to give some of the newcomers in the = last 15 or 20 years or so=20 with a more mature perspective to who Tom Mount has been and is. Best Regards; Captain Jim Wyatt PADI Master Instructor #4612 Florida Keys Reef-Divers www.reef-divers.com=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01C101FE.627D8A00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2919.6307" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=3D4>Capt Wyatt, I am sure that in your world Mouth is = the Dali=20 Lama, but the fact is that while the man has been at it for some 50 = years, or at=20 least 30, he has failed to participate in any real diving ever. He has = failed to=20 do anything but gravitate to the lowest common denominator and to = surround=20 himself with like kind. As a consequence, is has been slow to do = anything that=20 makes any sense, and unfortunately there are several deaths out there = that=20 document this. He has had to be beaten into submission in court or by = his=20 "peers" or by the example of the real pros in this game for what little=20 concessions to common sense he has made.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D4>In my opinion, formulated over 13 years of knowing = this guy,=20 he is motivated by nothing but the buck. When I first met him he was = teaching=20 deep air and "deco" diving, at the time what he considered to be "tech", = and he=20 and the biggest collection of losers on the planet started IANTD a few = years=20 later, well after the pros in cave diving were using techniques he still = does=20 not grasp, leaving IANTD speaking for itself as a mediocre collection of = compromises to stupidity, being only displaced in the bottom of the = barrel"=20 category by TDI.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D4>Now the easy buck comes from teaching electronic = rebreathers=20 to people who don't have any reason to dive rebreathers = as a=20 "higher order" certifications for the badge collectors and a 12 inch = dick for=20 the pussies, and the concepts learned from his organization are what = make up the=20 accident reports that you see so many of. Mouth thinks these = devices are=20 some great thing. Funny, I hold the cave diving distance record on = rebreather=20 along with my friend Jarrod Jablonski, and I think rebreathers represent = nothing=20 but risk and should only be used for a very good reason like for the = dives we=20 do. I never dive mine without a good reason, and I never dive mine = without an=20 all pro buddy like JJ. Notice that all of the deaths have no reason to = dive, and=20 the dead are all either solo or diving with complete idiots whose = incompetence=20 and fear ( read IANTD training ) leaves them without a solution. The = concepts=20 and principles taught in IANTD are the antithesis of DIR , and they have = the=20 track record to prove it.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D4>Where have I been for the last 25 years? Exploring = all the=20 caves that the know it alls like you and the rest of the "mouths" = in the=20 cave "community" could not touch if they were dry and had a Disney = ride=20 running through them.</FONT> <FONT size=3D4>I also am not in the = dive=20 business - I have a real life - , was only in the Navy due to the Viet = Nam War,=20 and since then have never met any more stupid bunch of morons even when = I played=20 football with pure animals, and their diving is complete bullshit. I = obviously=20 was not there as a diver or any other kind of sleddog. How's that?=20 </FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D4>Let's make an obvious point here: who has all the = records and=20 what organizations and people are involved in that, and why do they not = have the=20 death toll and constant accidents, and why do they do all the diving and = why do=20 they come up with all the leading edge in this game? Tell me again who = Tom Mount=20 is, I still don't see anything but bullshit. </FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: = 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A href=3D"mailto:jim@re*.co*" = title=3Djim@re*.co*>Florida Keys=20 Reef-Divers</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com"=20 title=3Dtechdiver@aquanaut.com>techdiver@aquanaut.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, June 30, 2001 = 4:56=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Tom Mount</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma>I was trained as a cave diver by a = student of=20 Tom Mounts', Bill Schenck. Later I dived with Tom in several caves = over a=20 several years. <BR><BR>Tom was training director of NACD at the time = &=20 Scheck Exley ran the NACD ITC I attended <BR>when I became NACD = Instructor #=20 28 in 1975. These were the early days of Cave diving <BR>when the = pioneers,=20 like Tom were making "Safe Cave Diving".<BR><BR>My hat has been off to = Tom for=20 almost 25 years.Where were you 25 years ago? I wonder if Patti = remebers me=20 taking her to the abyss off of Galteres' boat at the Royal Palms in = Grand=20 Cayman in 1978??<BR><BR>Tom Mount & Bill Schenck provided me with = the best=20 technical diver training I ever received. This training equals my = training as=20 a U.S. Navy Diving/Salvage officer.<BR><BR>I dive about everyday & = run my=20 own charter scuba boat in the Lower Florida Keys EVERYDAY.<BR><BR>Now; = I won't=20 respond to flames. I don't intend to piss & moan with you=20 either.<BR><BR>My motivation for this post was to give some of the = newcomers=20 in the last 15 or 20 years or so <BR>with a more mature perspective to = who Tom=20 Mount has been and is.<BR><BR></FONT><X-SIGSEP> <P></X-SIGSEP>Best Regards;<BR><BR><FONT color=3D#008000><B>Captain = Jim=20 Wyatt<BR>PADI Master Instructor #4612<BR>Florida Keys=20 Reef-Divers<BR></B></FONT><A href=3D"http://www.reef-divers.com/"=20 eudora=3D"autourl">www.reef-divers.com</A> = </P></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01C101FE.627D8A00-- -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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