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Todd, Ahhhh.....a civilized answer. I will take this point by point, and see if we can figure this out:)) << 1) The hose can not be re-stowed by YOU with now help from you buddy under water. Even if your buddy helps it becomes a huge CF.>> Ok, But theoritically(sp?) if you are having an out of air situation, you are getting out of the water? Right? not hanging out? If your buddy is having a problem with regs, the same should still hold true. I understand it's predominantly a restuffing problem. << 2) Stuffing the hose puts undue wear on the hose, especially when some people leave it stuffed all the time even when not diving.>> THis is true. I do not(leave it stuffed when not diving) and I am also thinking of putting some intertube around my tanks. I use steel, so the rubbing is even more problematic, with my old 120. No paint on it. << 3) Most people will go for the reg in their buddy's mouth when out of air and in a hurry to get air, it's just what seems to happen in an emergency because they know that reg works and it's easier to find that something bungeed to the side of a tank.>> Agreed, but why can't you stuff, and have your octo as your primary and your primary bungied? Actually that is what I do. << 4) The reg you were just breathing (the long hose in your mouth) works for sure. Your out of air buddy may not get a working reg if he grabs something that is stuffed behind some bungee on a tank.>> See above. << 5) The easiest breathing reg will be the one you usually breathe and should be the one your buddy gets when he/she is slightly upset after an out of air situation. The stuffed reg wouldn't be as easy to breath because most people don't want their back up reg to free flow during the dive wasting gas.>> See above. <<6) You may not know it if you "stuffed" reg is free flowing because it is out of sight. If you breathe the long hose your backup is around your neck and you will definitely know if it free flows.>> See above, above, above:))) <<7) During wreck penetrations or cave dives the reg that is "stuffed" is vulnerable to being banged into the wreck/cave and therefore may get damaged. A damaged reg from a buddy may be all that is needed to send an out of air buddy into a real panic possibly getting both of you killed.>> Good point, one I had not thought of. << 8) 7ft of hose dragging behind you becomes a serious snag hazard if the reg comes out of the bungee and you don't realize it.>> Again, good point:) << 9) I don't care how much you practice it, it is easier and quicker to hand off the long hose to you buddy and dip your head to get your backup that is around your neck. Stuffing is a huge CF just waiting for somebody to run out of air.>> CF? Cluster F...? Again tho, my long hose can be stuffed and still be used as my primary, while my primary is around my neck on a bungi. The problem for me resides, is that when I am having a problem with it either floating or tightening around my neck, then it is a danger to me. << It sounds like maybe you don't have the reg routed as it should be. I never have any issues with the long hose around my neck. It should be on the right post (right side of your body as you wear the doubles), go straight down and tuck under your canister light and then across your chest and around your neck. The back up should come off of the left post and cross behind your head and should be secured to your neck with a piece of shock cord or bungee. >> I don't use a cnaister light, but I do hook it under a waist pack on my bc. Today,seemed to be a good day with no problems. SO.....Recreational dive. However,it is generally more of a problem than a help, to me. But I don't give up easily, so will keep trying! Karla, Dog Training By Karla Ft. Lauderdale, FL -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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