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Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 17:42:15 -0400
To: <Dogtrner1@ao*.co*>
From: Rodriguez <mikey@ma*.co*>
Subject: Re: Long Hose Stuffing VS Hogarthian(Sp?)
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
At 06:25 AM 6/24/2001 EDT, Dogtrner1@ao*.co* wrote:

> Anyway, I have a 7 ft. hose(I am a big girl).  I am finding two problems:
> 
> 1) The reg and section of hose going around my neck, often tighten up. 
>Drives me crazy.

The hose shouldn't actually be "around your neck".  Instead, it goes
down from the right post behind the wings, between the light canister
and your right hip, then up along your chest biased toward the left,
around the back of your neck, then into your mouth.  There's nothing
there to tighten up around your neck.
 
> 2) If I am "bombing" a wreck, or going down quickly, the hose simply drifts 
>off my neck and is gone and dangling.

If you keep the hose positioned as described above behind your wings
and between the light canister and your right hip, the hose will
stay put.
 
> SO, my question is:  Other than the fact that DIR doesn't like it, what is 
>legitamately wrong with stuffing your hose?

1. The long hose is the one you donate.  If you stuff it somewhere,
when an OOA diver needs it, he's going to have to spend critical time
looking for it; if he panics, he's going for the one *all* divers
always have in the same familiar place, your mouth.  Now you're OOA
too.

2. If the stuffed hose deploys somehow (a practice drill or it snags
something) your buddy is unlikely to know how to restuff it properly
and while wearing your gear, it will be difficult for you to restuff
yourself.  If this happens inside a wreck, the ensuing silt-out will
further complicate things.

3. Ultimately, logic dictates where the noses should be.  The backup
short hose should be around your neck on a short bungee.  This way,
it's *always* there.  That reg is the one that will save your life
someday and you shouldn't compromise on having it unconditionally
always available to you.  In order for the regulator you donate to
be quickly and immediately visible and accessible to your OOA buddy,
it has to be someplace that *never* changes, that's your mouth.
Keeping it there allows the OOA diver to find it by just looking at
you and when you donate it (or have it ripped from your mouth) you
simply switch to the bungeed one and life goes on.  Any other
arrangement defies logic, IMO.
 
> Karla Clinch
> Dog Training By Karla
> Ft. Lauderdale, FL >>

I see you're in Ft. Lauderdale, as am I.  Why don't you check out
the AUE dive calendar and join us for a few local dives.  Watch how
we rig our gear and see why it works in the water.  Ask questions and
get suggestions from us.  We dive *all the time* all over Florida
from easy fun dives on the Hydro Atlantic to demanding very deep ocean
and cave dives and we're very successful at it due in part to the
way we rig our gear.

-Mike Rodriguez
<mikey@mi*.ne*>
http://www.mikey.net/scuba
Pn(x) = (1/(2^n)n!)[d/dx]^n(x^2 - 1)^n

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