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Steve, First ALL dives are decompression dives. Second if you're telling me that students doing an entry certification course don't need an SMB for diving offshore then I'm saying that I think you are a dangerous individual and don't know what you are talking about! Unless you care to elaborate or try to justify your last statement. -----Original Message----- From: "Steve Schultz"<se2schul@st*.ma*.uw*.ca*> To: "terry michael"<OEA51@go*.co*> Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com Date: Tue Jun 19 22:43:43 PDT 2001 Subject: Re: QUARRY DEATH TOLL was: [Dumb vs. Smart Re: Wet vs Dry in SoCal]] >They get an SMB when they do a dive that requires deco. > >ss > >----- Original Message ----- >From: terry michael <OEA51@go*.co*> >To: Steve Schultz <se2schul@st*.ma*.uw*.ca*> >Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com> >Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 9:12 PM >Subject: QUARRY DEATH TOLL was: [Dumb vs. Smart Re: Wet vs Dry in SoCal]] > > >> Sounds simple so why are they not wearing it? >> What about SMB? When do they get the SMB? >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: "Steve Schultz"<se2schul@st*.ma*.uw*.ca*> >> To: "terry michael"<OEA51@go*.co*> >> Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com >> Date: Mon Jun 18 14:03:15 PDT 2001 >> Subject: Re: QUARRY DEATH TOLL was: [Dumb vs. Smart Re: Wet vs Dry in >SoCal]] >> >> >They are provided with a depth gauge. They just need a $30 timex. >> > >> >ss >> > >> >----- Original Message ----- >> >From: terry michael <OEA51@go*.co*> >> >To: gott <wgrogan@dc*.ne*>; Thomas Rasbeck <trasbeck@dr*.co*> >> >Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com> >> >Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 10:37 PM >> >Subject: QUARRY DEATH TOLL was: [Dumb vs. Smart Re: Wet vs Dry in SoCal]] >> > >> > >> >> Wendell, Your right in my opinion. >> >> I think it's safe to say any wetsuit over 5 mil is the wrong suit for >the >> >job. But the students also are not provided with a timing device so have >to >> >rely on their instructor. Is it also possible to justifie that? >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: "gott"<wgrogan@dc*.ne*> >> >> To: "Thomas Rasbeck"<trasbeck@dr*.co*> >> >> Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com >> >> Date: Sat Jun 16 18:48:22 PDT 2001 >> >> Subject: Re: [Re: Re: [Dumb vs. Smart Re: Wet vs Dry in SoCal]] >> >> >> >> >Every time I see the discussion of wet vs. dry in the NE US/Canada, I >> >remember >> >> >when we were buying our gear from Evie Dudas for the first time. She >> >told us >> >> >that we should buy dry suits if we were serious about diving, that it >> >would save >> >> >us money in the long run. We scoffed, thinking that she was just >trying >> >to make >> >> >a buck since she makes custom dry suits. Wrongo!! We now own 3 wet >> >suits and 3 >> >> >dry suits, the wet suits make interesting wall hangings in our >basement. >> >The >> >> >dry suits are used most weekends. >> >> >I dove a 7 mm wet suits in conditions down to 35 F for up to an hour >at a >> >time. >> >> >I survived, but was often unable to stand up with a single steel 95. >In >> >other >> >> >words, you can do it, feel "OK", but be severely impaired from >> >hypothermia. If >> >> >you are going to be diving in water below 60 F for any length of time, >do >> >> >yourself and your potential widow a favor, either buy a dry suit, or >> >spend the >> >> >money on more life insurance. >> >> >Wendell G >> >> > >> >> >Thomas Rasbeck wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> Amen to that..After 25 years of Great Lakes diving, I see more dry >> >suits >> >> >> each year...My advice to newer divers as to the wet/dry question is >to >> >> >> remember the possibly long, cold boat ride after the dive. This is >> >where >> >> >> being dry and warm really becomes a plus side for dry. In a small >open >> >boat >> >> >> it can be nearly impossible to change into dry warm clothes. I have >> >seen >> >> >> people get a start on hypothermia by only worrying about water temp, >> >instead >> >> >> of considering the entire trip. >> >> >> >> >> >> Tom R. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> From: Michael A. Graham <magraham@ne*.co*> >> >> >> To: Bob Sherwood <sherwood@st*.rr*.co*>; terry michael ><OEA51@go*.co*>; >> >Bob >> >> >> Hines <bhines.vwmc@us*.ne*> >> >> >> Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com> >> >> >> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 11:42 AM >> >> >> Subject: Re: Re: [Re: Re: [Dumb vs. Smart Re: Wet vs Dry in SoCal]] >> >> >> >> >> >> > Bob Hines' observation that "...Very few people in the Great Lakes >> >area >> >> >> wear >> >> >> > Drysuits, unless they are doing Ice diving or extended deeper >diving >> >in >> >> >> the >> >> >> > cold..." would suggest to me that Bob does very little diving in >the >> >Great >> >> >> > Lakes. I've been actively diving the Great Lakes for 12 years and >it >> >> >> seems >> >> >> > to me, from what I've observed, the majority of divers are diving >> >dry, >> >> >> > "technical" and "sport" divers alike. It seems to me that being >cold >> >has >> >> >> > nothing to do with being a wimp...but being "macho" about diving >wet >> >in >> >> >> cold >> >> >> > water is stupidity. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Bob, provide a sound argument for diving a wetsuit in the cold >waters >> >of >> >> >> the >> >> >> > Great Lakes beyond "You get used to the cold after about 20 years >of >> >it.". >> >> >> > >> >> >> > MAG >> >> >> > >> >> >> > -- >> >> >> > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to >> >`techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >> >> >> > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to >> >`techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to >`techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >> >> >> Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to >> >`techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. >> >> > >> >> >-- >> >> >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to >`techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >> >> >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to >`techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. >> >> >> >> >> >> ___________________________________________________ >> >> GO.com Mail >> >> Get Your Free, Private E-mail at http://mail.go.com >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >> >> Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to >`techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. >> > >> >> >> ___________________________________________________ >> GO.com Mail >> Get Your Free, Private E-mail at http://mail.go.com >> > ___________________________________________________ GO.com Mail Get Your Free, Private E-mail at http://mail.go.com -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. 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