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Hi Duane, I think it's time for you to get a reality check. You may be right (although I don't personally agree) that << ... the biggest problem I have with computers is that reliance on computers promotes a diving population with no knowledge of decompression theory and how it applies to what they're doing... >> But do you know what? The vast majority of divers (and that means virtually the entire diving population except the extremely small technical and commercial portion) don't give a hoot about deco theory and never will. They just want to go down 60 ft., look at pretty fish and take pictures on their once a year trip to Cozumel. Tell me again the story of why my grandmother needs to know how an internal combustion engine works so she can drive the car to the supermarket. Also, you need to realize that advances in technology (like computers and other such things) may be extremely beneficial. For you to say << ... So, instead of knowledge, we have reliance on gadgetry, and most of the diving po pulation appears to gravitate towards replacing knowledge and technique with gadgets and shortcuts... >> If you really believed this, then I would expect to see you diving with a horsecollar (or no BC at all), double hose regulator, large oval single lens mask and a J-valve (because you didn't trust SPGs and after all you should have been keeping track of your gas usage constantly.) Starting to get the idea? Why don't we start talking about technical diving? After all, isn't that what this list is all about? And keep away from thinking that the whole world cares a whit about what we think or do. Nitrox computers are here to stay for sport diving and I for one think they are extremely helpful in this area. If you'd like to debate this premise, I'll be glad to do so. But you are heading for a big loss. Take care and dive safe, Scott Some weeks it's just not worth the effort to gnaw through the restraints and scramble up out of the pit. In a message dated 6/11/01 12:28:09 PM, d.liptak.jr@wo*.at*.ne* writes: << >There is a whole world of sport divers who use nitrox computers for no-deco, >non-overhead dives. Do you think they're all wrong? YES. Computers think bouncing is OK, the conservatism is fixed, half use Haldanean bullshit algorithms, they don't support correct profiles, most recommend ascent rates that are too fast, etc., etc. All the same reasons they aren't OK for bigger dives, as recently discussed, still apply. But, In addition to all their technical shortcomings, the biggest problem I have with computers is that reliance on computers promotes a diving population with no knowledge of decompression theory and how it applies to what they're doing. So, instead of knowledge, we have reliance on gadgetry, and most of the diving population appears to gravitate towards replacing knowledge and technique with gadgets and shortcuts. This is the mentality that gets people bent and killed. There was a time when I was less Draconian in my acceptance of some rec diving practices, but my tolerance for idiocy among any aspect of the diving population has been steadily declining since my first body recovery. Duane S/F >> -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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