This is one of the biggest problems in our industry.  The very people that
are in the position to change it and make it better, are the one's who are
screwing it up.  That's why it is ''ALL OF OUR JOBS'', to try and make it
better for others who will someday follow.......... then lead.  We can't fix
it over night no easier that we could eat an elephant.  We must eat the
elephant one bite at a time.  Change is always slow.  We must be focused and
attack the issue with great endurance, building momentum as we go.  Not
everyone is stupid(although we do have our lions share) but there is a lot
of ignorance in the dive industry.  Fostered and perpetuated by the
manufactures and certifying agencies then further spread by divestores and
instructors who think that they know what they need to, and stop trying to
gain more knowledge.
  Dive safe,  Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Braunbehrens <Bakalite@ba*.co*>
To: ScottBonis@ao*.co* <ScottBonis@ao*.co*>; techdiver@aquanaut.com
<techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Date: Friday, June 01, 2001 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: deep air Please help


>The problem is that people aren't aware of the options.
They have an
>instructor that they've been working with, whom they trust, and then
>the guy says "OK, the next step is to do Deep Air".  You try to
>argue, but the guy is adamant because he wants to make money on one
>more class.  You figure he must know his stuff, and you do want to
>progress to trimix, so you feel you have no choice.  It's classic,
>and it's criminal.
>
><ScottBonis@ao*.co*> wrote:
>~
>>Hi Ed,
>>
>>I'm having difficulty understanding your message.  How did an instructor
>>"FORCE" you to dive to 180 on air?  Did he physically restrain you and
pull
>>you down to that depth?
>>
>>I think you need to grow up and start to take some responsibility for your
>>own decisions.  Yes IMHO, the instructor was wrong.  Yes IMHO, the dive
was
>>stupid.  But yes, you choose to make the dive.  So consider yourself lucky
>>that you dodged the bullet this time and learn from it.
>>
>>Take care and dive safe,       Scott
>>
>>Some weeks it's just not worth the effort to gnaw through the restraints
and
>>scramble up out of the pit.
>>
>>
>>
>>In a message dated 5/31/2001 10:00 AM NyWrecker@ao*.co* writes:
>>
>><< ... Ive only ben diving for about 3 years.Im VERRY aware of this deep
air
>>shit BUT i have asked a few people for a limit and cant get an answer.To
>>start off the rec limit is 130 on air.Last summer i was FORCED to go to
>>150-160-3 times and 180 on it.The MOD on the 180 was 220.I know stupid BUT
it
>>was with a TDI-IANTD instructor so what do you expect.I tried to get him
to
>>let me use a mix but he wouldnt and i thought he wouldnt but i had to
try...
>>>>
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